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I agree with everything but the fact that, of what is reported of Jesus, he was very anti-wealth, over and above what people need to get by and that a actual christianity is incompatible with capitalism.

To me, thats the part that certain types of "christians" need to be metaphorically slapped round the face with.

But some who has earned a penny in interest has spent time as both worker and owner.

Its not that you've shifted it. I agree there. Its that your using sweeping terms that include things like earning a penny in interest that, in order to not sound ridiculous, has to have caveated to a point that:

No, the idea is that the middle class (defined in the conventional way) spends time in both the “worker” category and the “owner” category.

Doesn't reflect where it ends up at all.

Also, its not the conventional way. You 100% made that up and what you're describing is petite bougouise.

From wiki

The modern usage of the term "middle-class", however, dates to the 1913 UK Registrar-General's report, in which the statistician T. H. C. Stevenson identified the middle class as those falling between the upper-class and the working-class.[13] The middle class includes: professionals, managers, and senior civil servants. The chief defining characteristic of membership in the middle-class is control of significant human capital while still being under the dominion of the elite upper class, who control much of the financial and legal capital in the world.

It would be a very small amount, compared to what they earn over their lifetime. The idea that someone is middle class because they've earned a penny in bank interest is absurd.

Or are you planning on coming back with a load of caveats you conveniently left out previously?

Some!

How do you justify ignoring everyone else telling you its bad tho?

Ironically, people say the same thing about Israel now.

It almost makes you wonder how the BBC manage to do live events.

Thats the one.

It will also bring down inflation as money received as tax is netted off against money created by the government, destroying that money, resulting in less money chasing things. Its the fiat currency equivalent of burning large stacks of gold IOUs (old time money).

Of course, the rich like to pretend the only way to fight inflation is to pay the richest people in the world eye watering amounts of interest.

Yeah, I wouldn't be able to defend Israels actions either. So, I'd would have to resort to deflections and cheap whataboutery like you too.

....they then left and a whole different bunch of white people turned up to live in the land that had been recently been stolen from the indigenous Americans.

You'd have thought that the indigenous Americans would have tried to take their land back in the time between the Europeans leaving and the Americans turning up but I guess not.

I have to admire the brazenness with which you made up your own utterly unfounded definition of the term "middle class" then, immediately after being called out for it, accuse the person who hadn't provided any definition of the term of doing exactly what you had just done.

Thats some advanced level bad faith engagement right there.

Its not my definition. Its a different school of thought that has stood up to scrutiny. It is different to what a lot of people would refer to as middle class and, of course, different again from what you, personally describe middle class to be.

I don't really recognise a middle class but, if one is to exist, it is simply the middle earners of people who work for their money and they're predominantly white collar workers. That's all there is to it. What you described is petite bougouise and may well be middle class but not all middle class people are petite bougouise.

Thats not not what middle class means.

Lugenpresse!

I mean, fake news!

Its quite the norm in parts of Europe.

Had it been hard-core (from hell) i may have judged you but, even then, only as an xtc fiend.

For anyone curious, try dj mad dog : reset

Fair warning, it might be jarring on any mellow you might have going on. Eventually, when you've been raving long enough, you might find that, from time to time, you'll need sounds from the bowels of hell at 200 bpm just to feel something.

Now, I'm not saying China are the good guys or anything, god no, but, if I wanted to stop a rouge intelligence agency from selling herion to fund secret, illegal wars around the world id invent fentanyl.

Let gaza be an example for AntiZionists.

Don't worry, they've seen examples of illegal European settler colonialism and genocide before. They dont need all these new examples.

The edit doesn't really show why it would effect poor people disproportionately. Also, no one should be surprised that vacant homes in the ass end of alaska have very little effect on rates of homelessness.

Sounds like the final boss is alcohol.

Thats why we don't make decisions on these sorts of things or wild declarations about them based on anecdotes.

If you work for your money, you're part of the struggle. If you own for your money, you're part of the problem.

The problem is capital and it always has been. Sure, there's a concerted effort by capital to deflect the anger due to them onto CEOs and the like but we have to be smart enough and worldly wise enough not to fall for it.

You can play something like dota with people on a very basic computer and okayish connection. You'll always find matches too.