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Lol, Republicans tried this before under bush, right about the time his brother was running for reelection in florida. Bush whacked huge tariffs on a number of things coming into the US from the EU

The EU "florida hey? Nice oranges you guys have out there. Wouldn't it be a shame if someone was to, oh I dunno, put astronomical tarrifs on those delicious oranges, right in the run up to the florida governor election?"

It cut to the heart of the cronyism in the US political system. Not that anyone else has less or more. We all have it to one extent or another. Its just, imagine if it was your country's exact flavour of it laid bare and made public like that.

The Republicans were very embarrassed have hated the EU ever since.

Who knows, maybe this time it'll work.

Not that surprising. Conspiracy theorists, imo, have a few key features

1. no matter how smart or stupid they might be, they always think they're far smarter than they actually are
2. thinks everyone else is an idiot
3. easy to wind up
4. will take a position, no matter how little info about it they have access to, and will never, ever back down from it no matter how ridiculous where they ended up may be
5. finds real life too boring

None of those are ASD

Its sad how western colonial imperialists will try describe ethnic cleansing as a good or necessary thing.

As I suggested, the idea is and always has been to force palestinians out from Palestine, so they can be denied the right to ever return to thier homeland

In the exact way Israel has done to thousands of palestinians before and were all supposed to pretend we can't see exactly what we're looking at.

Also, "war" implies either side could win. This isn't a war, its ethnic cleansing, for the express purpose of illegally colonising stolen land.

Are you trying to tell me that the spirit of capitalism won't return to us, dressed in the splendor of new technology, to absolve us of our past planetary transgressions, and take us to a new, perfect place amongst the stars where we will live in profit and harmony for ever?

Well, thats the second time I've fallen for that story......

I don't remember saying that skill shortages don't exist.

Israel declaring everyone should just leave is great and everything but where is safe for them to go?

Its just, to me, the only places they seem to be able to go that might be safe are outside of Palestine but maybe I'm just being cynical.

I agree with the first part.

The second has some truth but peoples frustration isn't that there is some immigration. More so, despite their claims, there isn't a skill shortage of unskilled workers which should've always been self refuting. However, there is a shortage of companies who will pay people enough to do the work they want people to do.

When its framed like the above, it frames it as the choices are a) exactly as it is no or b) no migrant workers, even if that's not what you meant to say.

I hope you agree, the problem isnt the tiny number of people coming here illegally. Its not great but it was largely a deliberately manufactured problem.

The real problem we have no is that every company, post brexit, can now claim that their refusal to pay market rate wages or the provide meaningful training to anyone is the same as a skill shortage. This, of course, means their only possible option these hard done by entrepreneurs can do is import someone in for far less than what they should be paying for that work to be done in the UK.

Before brexit, they had pay enough for someone to want to move from, say, Italy leaving their family and friends behind to start a new life. Now, they only have to offer more than the going rate of the global south.

The problems were seeing are directly a result of letting corporations run riot over our immigration policy for years which has lead to some serious problems.

Just to be clear, I don't blame anyone for wanting to come here for a better life. I didn't choose to be born here.

Its work

Working, in the way that we do, takes years off of our lives and ruins the quality of life of people in their final years too.

I mean, its a meme and the message is put across very well but, for me, an important distinction for the comments section is that wealth increases life, as much as, if not more than poverty decreases it. Its wealth specifically and not wages too. After a certain point, increased wages actually have an inverse effect on lifespan which I'm sure comes as no surprise to anyone and the reason is both self explanatory and further supports what I'm saying.

Just so its been said, wealth, in these instances, refers to capital that makes you money. More specifically, wealth gives you money from NOT from working.

The exact point at which life expectancy and QoL increases is always around the exact level of wealth and passive income someone would need to drastically lower their working hours or stop completely.

A second argument: women live longer than men. There are some biological factors for this, such as oestrogen being a vasodilator etc. However, it wasn't really enough to explain the differences we were seeing.

The thing is, this unexplained gap has started getting smaller and smaller. Now, unless there's been a fundamental change in the average womans physiology recently, only one thing has changed in our society to the extent that it could effect something like this. Its also filtering through at around the exact time it should be, were the trend to be caused work.

Nothing else reconciles all of the positions, let alone so perfectly and in one single stroke.

Edit: so many typos

Don't worry, you can consol yourself with all the great new rock music being made

Tbf, even as someone around the same age as you, I can't even make my own. Like, purely as a hobby but it all comes out as like stuff from the late 60s and early 70s. Even if I wanted to, I couldn't make the rock/guitar music i grew up with.

I could always drown it in fuzz or hide the guitars, like everyone else these days I guess.

I'm just having a moan. I think its partly the emergance of rap etc. but also a generation traumatised by covid might not be into the same leary, brash rock sounds others might like. I mean, hearing it live with a huge crown thats full of energy makes such a difference. I'm hoping when there's a higher percentage who experienced it live during those years instead, it might get better.

The worst part is, some of us are going to be resurected, only to be forced to labour away in the flaming sword manufacturing department.

What, do you think heavenly, flaming swords make themselves or something?

Oh, oh right, yeah, I see your point now. You're right, I'll probably just end up in flaming sword logistics or admin. Back-office is what I do now. So, that'll make sense.....

Honestly, just leave me dead if ill only be brought back to gods fucking paperwork.

Edit: also, you know someone's gonna be like "OMG daddy Satan, come get me!"

For sure, it has to be real but I would say that believing you'll spend eternity being tortured would make any apology very sincere.

I didn't know that, thank you.

I'm going for a piss

Oh yeah, want some help with that?

Imo, when it comes down to it, a lot of them won't give a care what colour their wage slaves are, in much the same way that most of them aren't really Christian or are secretly gay etc.

Imagine having to come out as a non-rascist to your conservative parents

Fuck that

1 John 1:9 ,

“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.

Therefore, they will be righteous and included with the sheep and never asked goat (people on the right hand side) questions.

Like I said, its all about the fine print. Righteousness isn't the ticket.

What if they disguised their sociopathic greed as ideology?

You mean the ones whos mega-rich owners are being promised massive tax cuts by trump? Those very same ones?

I'm shocked to my core. I'm glad I was sitting down when I read your comment.

100% and, more so, thats not just a billion in cash, of course. Thats a billion dollars worth of stuff that makes you money, that can be sold off for at least a billion, most likely far more.

When people read these valuations, they often think to themselves "surely they can't be worth that much" and they're right. It will always be much, much more. Other than Trump, wealth valuations are always very, very conservative, due to the nature of how they do it, and thats before we get to the fact that they're only estimating their wealth on the assets that are publicly disclosed.

Oh, the laffer curve is just fine. The issue is, the people who choose to missuse it deliberately or through utter ignorance never mention that the X value is about 90%. As I always say to those types whenever they bring it up:

"Theh all want to talk about the laffer curve, right up until you have to explain to them how hight the X value is. Then, as if by magic, they suddenly don't want to talk about it anymore and never agreed with it in the first place."

The real problem with economics, imo, is that they always presume inequality to not exist, in order to make the calculations work. The reason being that, if you accept that inequality exists and add it to the pot, as it were, the answer always comes out as "the problem is inequality."

However, that doesn't justify tax breaks for the rich or their rampant greed and exploitation. So, we pretend its non-existent and, tbf, in a wold with no inequality what so ever, where only the best rise to the top and anyone could be rich, if they worked for it and it wasn't a closed shop, most of neoliberalism would be absolute genius.

Of course, the problem is that, in the real world, inequality not only exists but is the definining feature of our economy.

You'll have to let me know what part of the bible says that because its not in any parts that I read.

While baptism itself is in the bible, baptism absolving sin is something made up centuries later, so that churches could have some of that old school shaman ritual stuff they didnt have any of.

More so, the only opposing view to the one above would be the Catholic one and their interpretation is problematic at best.

People really need to check the fine-print on that particular covenant.