Way to out-pedantize a pedant. Also, wikipedia isn't exactly a credible source. While I wouldn't personally split hairs on the use of "app", TimeSquirrel isn't wrong in that the use of that short-form wasn't ubiquitous until the time of smart-phones, and more specifically, the iPhone.
The general populous would have no clue how to install Windows either, which can, to this day, still have driver issues.
The issue isn’t Linux. The issue is OEMs’ reluctance to provide hardware with Linux preinstalled. The moment Best Buy sells computers with Linux on it is the moment we’re done having this debate.
Or I could run pacman -S code on a system that doesn’t require hoops to jump through.
I think I just don’t see the reason or benefit of going the immutable distro route. At least not yet, for me. I’ll never say never, of course. Right now it feels like extra steps to achieve the same thing.
I’m not trying to be a Luddite here, I love technology when it solves a real problem. I guess I just don’t have a problem that an immutable distro would solve.
Honestly, I'd rather it didn't, or at least maintain the standard Arch as it is today. I get the appeal of immutable distros/installs, but they are just not for me. They feel like a lot more work, for not much benefit.
Also, given that Fedora atomic distros are the ones people seem to compare against, I don't like that flatpak is effectively required. I like flatpak and what it offers, I don't like that all apps I install must be flatpak, or that I have to go around that default in some way (when I tried one of the atomic spins, I kept running into apps that just didn't distribute as flatpak and it made things more difficult). I suppose this old dog doesn't want to deal with some new trick just to use his system like he always has with a simple pacman -S or apt install.
If only every software I need had a flatpak option for installation. That is the problem right now with going this route for me. I dumped Bazzite solely because of this reason (and because it kept wanting me to reboot after installing simple user-space software, and I now know there’s an non-intuitive way to avoid this). I’m not yet sold on the atomic distros.
For someone coming from Arch, that could be a tough sell. When I tried it, I was greeted with numerous instances where I couldn’t find the software I needed or expected and didn’t understand or know how to acquire because it wasn’t in the add/remove software at all (no flatpak available).
I get why people think atomic/immutable OSes are the future — it’s just not for me presently.
(boosting domestic manufacturing and supporting unions through an actually-pro-labor NLRB) which have been boosting wages
That's good, I didn't know that. However, that hasn't had any affect on me, personally, as you have suggested, being a tech worker. In fact, I had to take a wage cut just for the business to survive. This whole economy is screwed in one way or another. And anytime the economy is screwed like this, it usually benefits some (typically the rich), and destroys others.
This is all considerably too complex to boil down to any one real thing to point to, but the notion of corporate greed still nags at me every single time I go to the grocery store. If prices can rise, they surely can also fall -- and they simply haven't, all while record profits are continually posted, and not for just luxury items -- but for basic needs as well (groceries, etc).
This is as large a cost-of-living swing as I've ever seen in my many decades on this Earth. And it worries me greatly for my kid's future.
Blaming the current economic issues on Biden is wholly ignoring the shit-show that preceded him. He’s not perfect, but he didn’t directly cause this bullshit — he’s just not done much to combat it except for college debt, the Inflation Reduction Act, and a few more actions like stimulus. As an aside, I personally have lost $25000+ now solely due to Trump’s tax changes.
It’s also wholly ignoring the unfettered greed that the US seems to have a fetish for. One prime example: soda is literally 4 times as expensive now than it was just 5 years ago. It still costs pennies to make a 12-pack of soda, but $10 for that 12-pack is now the norm. The supply chain woes of the pandemic no longer apply, yet they decided to just keep the prices at that level.
It’s time to blame the real reason the 99% are fucked — corporate greed, and a spineless, useless Congress unwilling to do anything about it.
Yes, Democrats, let’s make certain we do literally everything possible to hand Trump another win and avoid all accountability for being the crooked piece of shit he is — all for Israel.
Wow.
Maybe one day Democratic leadership will understand that it’s really not a good idea to piss off their voter base — since voters, even Democrats, will vote against their party candidate just to spite them and damn the consequences.
I was okay with them getting Blizzard because, well, how much worse could Blizzard actually get with the merger?
But this? I sincerely hope this never happens. Valve isn’t the complete shit-show that Blizzard has been. Valve actually understands its customers and seemingly, mostly, respects them. Please for all things good in this universe, keep it that way.
We like to laugh and play here about Linux quite a bit
We do? Aside from the "I use Arch, btw" memes, I must not have got that memo :) And, uhh...I use Arch, btw.
Fuck, ignoring the obvious pron implications that I assume everyone here is immediately thinking of, think of HIPAA, think of the private communications with therapists that people have, think of all of the financial documents you’ve opened, think about bank accounts, chats, fucking everything.
So much this. I'm glad I dumped Windows and this just guarantees that I'll never return.
Or, the game devs/publishers could get a clue and realize that the already-supported anti-cheats on Linux work perfectly fine and do the job, not requiring the Linux community and vendors to jump through more hoops to satisfy their unfounded paranoia.
In the meantime I’ll continue not buying and playing their games.
The way I see it, the issue here is that everyone is trying to solve packaging from the developer perspective. I understand why they do, but the only way to solve this is to instead look at it from the user’s perspective.
Apps should be dead simple to find, dead simple to install, dead simple to maintain and use, and dead simple to remove.
This is why snap and flatpak and appimage are things. The problem here is that they each have various issues within them that break one or more of those tenets from the user’s perspective.
Trying to resolve packaging by going back to same methods that have existed for decades and wrapping them in a bow may help developers in some fashion, but the end users are still going to lament dealing with apps on Linux because it’s not solved — for them.
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