ubergeek @ ubergeek @lemmy.today

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You’re sounding like one of those people that says “ummm ackshully it’s GNU + Linux, not Linux”

No, I'm one of those people that understand that a DE is not the OS. A DE is a component one can install, but doesn't have to, in order to have a fully functional OS. Most certainly one does not require Kate in order to have a Linux OS installed. I have thousands of linux machines I manage that DON'T have Kate installed.

If you install a distro with KDE, you will have Kate. It’s an OS program.

Weird, because I only have Kate because I asked for it to get installed. It didn't come along for the ride when I installed KDE.

Pahahaha, that’s not what defines whether a program is an OS one or not. You can run paint on Linux if you wanted to. Based on your definition, Paint therefore isn’t part of the Windows app suite.

Paint comes on the MS Windows ISO (Or did), and with zero choice given, ever, MS Paint gets installed.

I installed MX Linux yesterday, and Kate was not installed.

I installed KDE on Freebsd a couple of weeks ago, and Kate was not installed.

Let’s get back on topic - do you think a normal user will hear “Kate” and think “ah, that must be the text editor!”, do you think they’ll hear “Dolphin” and think “ah, that must be a file manager of some kind!”?

I don't think any of that matters, tbh. Every user will have things to learn, once they switch to a new OS.

Using social media is far removed from operating your own publicly available social media server.

This coming from someone who is trying to get more mastodon usage in higher ed. Profs aren't the ones who operate these things. Merely getting the approval to get the project started is an immense task.

It’s part of the KDE Plasma desktop.

KDE is not "The OS".

Would you say the Dolphin file explorer isn’t an OS/system app

That is correct. Dolphin is not a part of "The OS". Case in point, you can install Kate, and Dolphin, on FreeBSD. And on Windows.

Having vi is a part of the POSIX specification, therefore, it is a part of the OS.

Most scientists aren't allowed to do stuff like that, or purely just don't have the time.

Kate isn't a part of the OS, though... the text editor that is a part of the OS is called "vi".

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They are silent, because they have alzheimers, and aren't sure what it going on.

What does "Excel" do? What does "Steam" do? What does "Balena" do? What does "Conky" do?

Spies often don't know they are spies...

Like someone selling manuals for a piece of defense tech may not know why the buyer wants it... but yet....

I just usually keep my hair tied back with a rubber band, a head band, or under a bandana, if doing most anything but just sitting.

Nothing like the very highly reliable pharmaceutical "science" done in the US, amirite?

Its not like we ever had "science" come from the US that said an extremely powerful opioid wasn't addictive, amirite?

I suppose we'll need to worry about that, once we get a net positive output from a fusion reactor.

Yeah, I'm not going to bother with a source from a capitalist... Sorry. I'll just go with the facts: The US was pretty much the only ones who could rebuild Europe... Eveyrone else had their entire industries flattened.

It wasn't about cutting taxes. It was about "Unleashing the market"... Those are oligarch talking points, to try and convince us to let them be Robber Barons again.

Pretty sure all of Europe needing to be rebuilt, and the US having the only working industrial sector had a huge thing to with it...

Not slashing taxes... taxes were at their highest in the 60s.

If we go back to the Great Depression, just creating jobs didn’t fix the economy, my understanding is that gold inflows (we were still on the gold standard) largely did, because it increased money supply, encouraging more investment

WW2 fixed the Great Depression...

Since the economy is reasonably healthy (lowish unemployment, inflation under control, etc)

OMG... The economy ISN'T reasonably healthy...

Inflation is headed back up.

Houselessness in the US hit records highs, and still climbing.

Real income is still flat from 1980.

It turns out, when you flood the market with competent workers and your economy is otherwise healthy, they tend to get snapped up.

That... Not at all how it works. It ignores all sorts of things, like labor mobility. Remember the Great Depression? Loads of people, and loads of jobs out there... Labor was frozen, and immobile.

Right now, we have low unemployment, because people are holding 2 and 3 jobs just to meet basic needs... And are still falling behind.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/02/11/democrats-tricked-strong-economy-00203464

The economy is only doing "reasonably well" for oligarchs.

Additionally, slashing federal spending does... Reduce the GDP. Every federal dollar spent usually leads to 3-7 USD once it gets to the streets.

Well, the good news? A wider audience most certainly means a FLOSS suite that can parse the data from it. It doesn't seem very opaque, but more like Markup++.

30k is a low end estimate. And 30k+ people in a single month WILL be more than a dent. So, take the 100-150, and revise back to 70-120K new jobs, which is below typical new job creation.

And this is JUST the first wave of effects... Those jobs created other jobs, down the line, which also are going away. Case in point: The 90 people in a single NPO that let everyone go. That is not unique, and not counted in the federal layoff count.

Just looked it up, the current count is 77,000 employees have been terminated, so far. So, that 100-150k gets revised downward to 30-70K new jobs... Almost cut it in half there! Its expected to increase, upwards of 200K. And, those all, once again, have downward effects on local govs and NPOS.

I doubt we’ll see a depression unless Trump increases tariffs again in response like Hoover did.

Hoover wasn't ripping through the federal government, slashsing employee headcounts, and slashing outgoing funds.

These two alone, are likely enough to seal the "Depression" deal... Like, in 1 month, we have 30,000+ new people seeking unemployment; states, counties, and cities are going to start cutting jobs too, because of the slashed federal funds which fund programs at those levels. I know one non-profit that has basically let all 90 employees go, because lack of federal funds coming in on grants means they can't keep the rent paid.

Yeah no shit? Like anyone honest with themselves KNEW that would be the result if Trump won the presidency.

They should have been saying this BEFORE the election, instead of gargling the wrinkled, atrophied, and filthy balls of Trump.