ubergeek @ ubergeek @lemmy.today

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Convicted of state charges, but because he ran for office, he was immune from any consequences.

Your response provides very little substance

The substance is "Judges aren't checking him, and have stated they cannot"

I hope you’re a teenager because then it’s understandable. Either way unless you engage more than a “lol ok” I’ll save my toilet time for something else.

Nah, pushing 50, and have seen this dog and pony show get worse since the 80's, with people saying, "Don't worry! Our system will keep things in check!" as all of the checks are discarded.

Let me guess, just vote bloo no matter hoo, right?

I feel like anyone working in concert with a fascist state is a part of the fascist state. I feel like a lot of people miss this point.

Qualified immunity applies to civil suits as well. Which is why we cannot sue cops.

For a recent example, they said the president cannot deport people under the Alien Enemies Act and that the government needs to give people a reasonable timeline to get a lawyer and mount a legal defense.

And then said,"But we can't make him stop ignoring us"

What happens if in a couple of months, the federal government just sends some people to El Salvador under the Alien Enemies Act- directly ignoring the SC?

Nothing at all.

Or the military parade… or the tariffs… defunding NOAA hoping for a destructive hurricane, etc. It’s chaos for the sake of chaos. Same reason they deported the Venezuelans in the first place without habeas corpus.

I think it's more about building up the dictatorship, so nothing stands in his way.

You or I may not agree with the SC on every ruling. But the individuals on there, for the most part, are scholars of the constitution and hold a deep respect for it. It’s why even people like Kavanaugh who was appointed by Trump will sometimes rule against his interests.

This is a fucking laughable joke. You're kidding, right?

We may disagree on some interpretations but these people genuinely believe in the rule of law. This will inevitably clash with the administration.

lol, ok. Which law? Bible law? Trump law?

So, in the event of state charges, as long as he runs for an office, he is immune from everything then, correct?

So, we all know that the entire administration can get away with whatever they like, and only Donald as the arbitrator of what is legal then, right?

First has to be a WWIII...

So, official acts are going to be determined by judges appointed by Trump? How do you think that will work out?

BTW, charges were laid against Trump, and he was convicted. And then, served no jail time, and the sentence was commuted.

In fact, I foresee a future showdown with the Supreme Court that has potential to cause a constitutional crisis.

What evidence do you have for this? Honestly asking here.

I mean, the SCOTUS basically ruled the federal level electeds, appointeds, and hirees all have qualified immunity for "official acts", and "official acts" are anything Trump says. The SCOTUS also ruled the courts cannot stop the POTUS from doing anything, except in extremely narrow ways. The SCOTUS also ruled that every regulation is a government overreach. The SCOTUS also ruled money is speech. The SCOTUS also ruled that Trump can, at will, deploy the military on US soil to wage war against it's citizens.

We just need them to get it in front of SCOTUS.

What do you think that would accomplish? Case gets to SCOTUS, SCOTUS rules the administration was 100% correct, they are all terrorists, and anyone who defended them is also able to be denaturalized and deported to CECOT.

Can't sue. They were "official acts". So, everyone in the federal government who is a Reich Winger has qualified immunity for anything they do.

Im familiar, but its good youre researching why most Cubans fled to the US in the early to mid 1900s.

https://tildegit.org/ubergeek/ICEWatch/src/branch/main/README.md

Must be aliens.

Cuba ended slavery before the US?

We still have plenty of people alive in the US whose parents were literal slaves...

But he has no experience.

I'd argue he single-handedly saved thousands of lives via a single action, and if we let him do more, he could save many more.

I mean, I suppose that's true... But the areas where people will be forced out will be, for all intents and purposes, uninhabitable.

Do you deserve sympathy from other countries?

No, the US doesn't deserve sympathy for this. Not until we actually start fighting back.

The only people right now in the US that have any sympathy from me, as a USian are the people out on the streets, actively stopping ICE, or sabotaging federal equipment and processes.

The rest of the country? Yeah, we'll learn our lesson eventually.

Hence, why I asked, initially, and my feelings were qualified with some limits....