trevor (he/they) @ trevor @lemmy.blahaj.zone

Hello, tone-policing genocide-defender and/or carnist 👋

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Thanks to Biden, and other democrats hurdling the Overton window to the right by legitimizing "the border crisis" and then serving the republicans the absolutely deranged border bill that they wanted.

Thank fuck that failed to pass, but that only make democrats look weak in the face of the manufactured border "crisis".

I won't answer. You are not owed an answer, you snivelling genocide apologist.

As I said: you can use the lack of an answer to reflect on how effective the broader strategy of defending genocide will be to move people to vote for Biden in the general election.

This person is a pro-genocide NPC and this is where their dialogue tree starts looping.

Skill issue. Biden should simply stop enabling the genocide.

Banger comic.

You're defending genocide, and anyone that isn't in favor of the genocide can see that. We're going in circles, which, I think, might be representative of the broader strategy of telling people to "suck it up, the genocide is the best we're going to get", so I'll leave you to ponder that.

Thanks for confirming that you're a proud genocide defender.

I guess we'll see how doing nothing but defending genocide until the general elections turns out. Surely it'll have a better outcome than acknowledging the fact that enabling genocide (and thereby, doing genocide) is not acceptable and having Biden change course on that. I'm not confident that defending genocide will win people that are anti-genocide or otherwise apathetic to voting over.

If "attacking" means supporting anti-genocide protests, then sure, buddy. Imagine being okay with genocide.

Obviously Trump will be as bad or worse for the Palestinians. The problem is that Biden is the one doing it now, when there is this much at stake. Ignoring the whole "Biden is doing a genocide" thing, which you shouldn't, he's making it difficult for people to want to turn up to vote for him. That is entirely his fault. As it turns out, people don't like genocide. Too fucking bad.

Also, I like how fascism, as long as it's outside of the US, is totally fine with you.

I have contempt for anyone refusing to stand up to fascism

And yet... you're out here playing defense for a perpetrator of genocide who is currently licking the boot of the leader of a fascist ethnostate. The problem is weak-willed liberals that make it easy for fascists.

Again, if you have more contempt for the people protesting the genocide than the ones perpetrating it, you're doing genocide apologia. If you're spending more time bitching about righteous protests, maybe you should ask yourself why.

Biden could make it very easy to vote for him. The anger and protests didn't come from nowhere. If he fails at his job so poorly that other left-leaning people don't want to vote for him, that's on him, not the voters.

If you're calling the righteous indignation that is the response to Biden enabling a genocide a "tantrum", you're doing genocide apologia. If you ever wondered what you'd be doing during the Holocaust, you're doing it right now.

Are you sure you're not going to vote for Trump? People like you have such a strong urge to defend genocide that I'm certain you'd fit in very well with that crowd.

Maybe we should be doing something about the whole genocide thing if we really don't want a fascist to take power in the US. Maybe the blame should be placed on those enabling genocide instead of the people that are protesting against it.

It's a shame the genocide had to ramp up for election season, huh? Oh well, it's not the people that are criticizing the genocide enablers fault. That is 100% the fault of all the elected officials enabling it.

Imagine thinking that your candidate is above criticism for enabling a genocide 🤡

Go ahead and do what you're going to do. If someone correctly criticizing Biden for being too right-wing makes you want to vote for Trump, you never had any principles anyway.

It's lovely that Pelosi has more contempt for the anti-genocide protestors than the far-right extremist that broke into her house and beat her husband with a hammer.

What a wonderful world.

Thank you for correcting that. It's wild seeing people are still out here pretending Israel has anything but genocidal intentions.

Broken clock 🤷 It helps when the US is committed to doing the wrong the at basically every step with Israel.

Did you know that nations aren't a house and aren't analogous at all?

International and US law dictate that if you go to the US and make an asylum claim, you are there legally, by definition, until your case is heard. Trying to keep them out or deport them is in direct violation of those laws, purely for the sake of appealing to racist dipshits that have bought into the fear mongering about the border.

If the US government (all governments, really) would simply put resources into processing those claims and making real pathways to citizenship, rather than brutalizing them for being born on the other side of a border and being brown, this "problem" could have been solved long ago.

I'll allow for what you're referring to as American exceptionalism if it's reflective of reality. And, in the case of the US being a world superpower, and Israel's top (external) source of military funding, that is the reality.

So, yes. The far-right Israeli government might throw a hissy fit over the US government adopting a "genocide is a non-starter" policy for supporting them, but the US calls the shots. If Israel doesn't like it, too fucking bad.

Calling for a cease fire isn't "cutting ties with Israel", and if you think that funding a genocidal ethnostate is a necessary part of foreign policy, your foreign policy would have been very helpful for the Axis Powers, you absolute monster.