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  • Somehow you see all the reasons why coops are hard but you beleave sharing could easily resolve the conflicts about scarce resources.

    Establishing successful coops would allow socialists to show that their values are rooted in reality, especially because it is difficult.

  • There is a bond within family that makes sharing food possible. There is distrust between strangers so that sharing is not usual. Generally people don't share food at work.

    What is needed to establish sharing as the primary way to resolve conflicts?

  • Thank you for that analysis.

    only capitalists are incentiviced to reduce costs.

    Right, you didn't write that. You wrote that a coop could struggle when a competitor undercuts costs.

    Right now, in this channel: Consequential Efficiency https://reddthat.com/post/3221538

    Coops could reduce costs easier with a lower floor than regular companies if workers participate in a long-term reward.

    I believe that most people don't want socialism. But the people who do could create a network of coops and share their resources however they like.

    There are many markets where businesses can be bootstrapped without capital. Why not enter those markets and have the best margins by offering the best products? There is only a limited need to cut costs if a product doesn't compete on price.

  • Competition is inherent to our existence. Not everybody can have a house of gold or even live on the coast. How do you allocate scarce resources? Competition is everywhere.

    Nationalizing supplies only hides the true prices and will create a grey market for undervalued goods. Problem is that most goods will be overvalued because, as you write, only capitalists are incentiviced to reduce costs.

    No leadership can overcome the misalignment of incentives. The sovjet union could have had better leaders but which resources can they use if managers don't dare to cut costs?

    Coops can be more competitive when workers understand that they are not only compensated with money to consume but also influence. At least the unemployed should be willing to participate.

    If workers cannot be motivated to support coops, how can socialism be sustained?

  • What does that mean? That managing a successful revolution is easier than managing coops?

    Why is it important that the proletariat owns capital? Deconstruct your requirements and find a way to achieve your goals. If you try to achieve something that people want then there is a way to get it.

  • Thanks for your detailed answer.

    I wouldn't call it capitalism but markets. How can you escape markets, even if you control a state? Some people argue that the soviet union broke due to low oil prices.

    Have you considered that coops need less capital to survive? When doing business becomes costly, coops could be the only businesses that survive. They could then keep unemployment rates ar zero while making profits.

  • Who should create real estate without profits?

    If you supply housing as a government service, construction workers will play the same games as defence contractors. Do you expect rent to be cheaper?

    What's wrong with profits? They compensate for the risk and effort that comes with creating real estate. They are only too high when there is no competition.

    If profits are too high, what is preventing you from creating a new house and be rewarded with those profits? Change the world so that you, and thus others, have the ability to participate. Then housing prices will be fair.

  • There are many obstacles like complex building codes, limited supply of building sites, credit requirements or limited public transport. Reduce them, respectively increase public transport, and more people have an opportunity to spend their money on real estate with the expectation of profits.

  • Even if you manage to establish a clean democracy once, how do you prevent it from being corrupted?

    The Lemmy migration shows you how small the number of active citizens is.

    The world has enough places that citizens could organize in the way you describe, despite billionaire opposition. The problem is that humans are not wired that way. We rely on the self interest of sad people who seek solace in their empires to build our civilization.

    Happy people would spend their time with other happy humans. Nobody really likes the noisance of business. You believe that you can find people who do the work of billionaires without the freedom. I think you won't find them and you won't find the ones to control them.

  • When I look at home prices I know that school never has been good. People don't understand what they have to do to drive down prices.

    Why can't Tiktok be used to find the best courses? There is no need for teachers to teach when Tiktok can do it better. Let teachers become mentors.

  • Society already pays many taxes and changing the spending doesn't happen freely by society.

    Politics have their own disadvantages and billionaires are a complementary way to allocate resources.

    That society can be locked into Twitter shows that taxes shouldn't be the only source of capital. Every democracy could have created a Twitter clone many years ago as basic infrastructure.

    Like Norway's wealth fund, many countries could have invested in companies to generate profits and reduce taxes. Instead there are deficits. Politicians rely on society for sustainability whereas billionaires have to identify and improve sustainable forms of income.

    If neither politicians nor billionaires should invest, what would be a good way to identify the people who should?

  • Who selects and controls the managers? Who motivates people to invest their income to pay the managers?

    A million people have to pool $1000 each to create the equivalent of a billionaire. It could be possible yet it doesn't happen.

    The trick is that billionaires cannot consume their entire wealth. Thus the economy has free money that looks for opportunities.