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So my theory on what's going on is this.

I suspect that this is an automatically running update to try to help keep your packages up to date, and I think it's getting stuck on a source configured in your /etc/apt/sources.list I'm willing to bet it's likely a source configured to pull from a "CD" which is used during installation and they forgot to disable that one.

You should be able to stop it, it'll still be locked but you'll need find the lock file (I forgot where it's configured) and just remove it with a simple rm, you'll probably need to sudo the rm though.

So my order of operations would be, kill the process, try to rerun the apt update and see if that tells you which repo it's getting stuck on.

Nice, so here's your next step. Do a Google search and see what exactly that file is. Find out it's purpose and that'll give you an idea what's going on, which then allows you to determine if it's safe to kill or not.

I already looked it up, so I want you to do the same and let me know what you find out and what you think they are being used for.

I would recommend trying out the process tree

Use ps auxf | less

And then / to search for the process. See what child processes are running from that aptget. I wouldn't expect much but that should give you an idea about the safety of killing it

To explain my "fuck this shit" moment first we need to understand the company.

They were a smart pouring alcohol, beer wine alcohol kumbucha, whatever. They could pour it. They sold their product as PaaS, Pour as a Service. The idea was that you a bar owner could have them come in, install their taps (which they maintained) and you would have fancy data and controls over these taps.

You want 1 push to mean 12 Ozes of beer and for the taps to lockdown at 12am automatically? Bam, they'd do it. In theory at any rate. Truthfully, they never could get the pours perfect. It was actually pretty hilarious in hindsight because they wanted to advertise that they were solving shrinkage and waste lol.

Let's move along though, when I got hired, the tech stuff was handled by me, a full stack developer, two electrical engineers, an embedded developer and a shit tier consultant that wanted to use Ansible for EVERYTHING including Infrastructure as Code (we'll touch on that).

The tech stuff was either non distributed architecture, basically a piece of shit application made in nodejs running on I shit you not, beaglebone blacks. For reference page one of the user manual says "don't use this in production" for good reason, one of the issues was the lack of a real time clock another was this hardware level race condition where the beaglebone just wouldn't boot fully so it needed a reboot. Lol. Oh, also it was running debian wheezy in 2019 (unsure on exact timing) which had been EOLed back in 2018. I always found it using when they talked about security as if they gave a shit.

The other one was the distributed architecture, this was running on a board that was developed in house by one of the EEs. It had feature parity and was supposed to replace nonda. This one ran a bit differently using async messaging and some really fancy bells and whistles. It was also running debian Jessie, which wasn't fantastic but better than nonda.

2 months after my hiring, the full stack developer left. The guy had a tendency to boil the ocean but he also knew damn near everything about both architectures. So losing him was fun and I had to take on everything he did, minus code, quickly. Our consultant meanwhile, took on very little.

As startups do, problems would happen and be bandaided, I would complain about tech debt get ignored and dumpster fires would happen as one would expect. After a while, we started losing more people, first the EE I wasn't close to. Then the embedded guy and finally the EE I was close to.

At this point, I was stressed beyond belief and fucking sick of it. Both the culture and the bullshit where if I fucked up, I got punished but if the consultant fucked up or ignored policy nothing would happen.

I'm not sure on the timeline here but two things happened.

1. there was an outage after hours. I wasn't aware of it and was eating dinner with my family which is very important to me because family. After dad's battle with cancer, I wanted to make sure important things like family dinner were a family time thing. No phones, no TV. Maybe music but mostly talking and spending time together.

Back to the story, I got called. Family excused me so I answered and was informed about the outage. They asked me to pitch in because it looked like something I was knowledgeable about, I said sure I don't mind but I need to finish dinner with my family first, because we were already in the middle of it. Sounds reasonable right? Not to my boss. He demanded I stop, I held firm. He got pissy but relented and let me finish.

Bet you're expecting some heroic effort and a saved the day right? Nah. I had nothing to do because it had nothing to do with me. No apology was given nor was a thank you extended. I literally sat there, scrolling reddit "being available"

2. after my team left, I got asked to step up and at that point I was getting interested in the SRE space. I had been interviewing and wanted the title. So I asked for it, and was told "I'll think about it" after they said there would be no raise. Weeks passed, nothing happened. Not even a "hey we need to say no". So I got an offer from my current employer, had the title I wanted and everything. I accepted and gave previous employer less than 2 weeks. First thing the boss asked was if it was because of the no promotion.

Fast forward 2 years to April of this year. The board of investors fired the owner and coo and the company declared bankruptcy. Good fucking riddance. Bunch of stupid fucking schmucks.

Who I am, what I've said, what I'm in support of and not in support of, that stuff isn't information I want shared willy nilly with the rest of the world. I like choosing who gets to know me.

I definitely appreciate the hesitation in defederation, but I'm in favor of defeding with both hexbear and lemmygrad.

I've seen more than enough "Stalin did nothing wrong posts" to know that discussions are pointless and would lead me only to frustration and a desire to drink.

I think climate change is a big fucking problem, full stop.

That being said, do you know how much of a relief it is to read "we're not going to turn into Mars, just keep trying to fix the problem we got this humanity"? I legitimately have had existential dread due to the messaging around climate change. At least now I can continue trying to do my best to fix it without asking "what's the fucking point?"

Wasn't this already an established fact with the big hubbub over the guy they hired when working for GameGrumps?

Something about Arin having to have a talk with them and putting the guy up for 3 months?

Sauce plox.

Update: I asked for proof, got downvoted and op updated their comment completely with no mention of the original comment. Super cool.

But how does a plague avoid plague?

A failure to do market research is absolutely a company owner's fault.

Indonesia being Indonesia is not musk's fault, but not doing the bare minimum of looking into things is musk's fault.

I mean for audio I use these large mostly black disk things...

For nonphysical media I'm a filthy streaming whore.

Were they behind the whole "2Xchromosomes is transphobic" thing last week?

I'm still conflicted by that argument. At face value, like sure but neither the sub nor the Lemmy were enacting terf rules or instigating terf behavior so feels like a bit of a bad faith argument?

I'm in the technology department for any Kroger brand. If your experience violates the company ethics I'm willing to lose the job to point out violatiom of the ethics.

If you're comfortable saying be it publicly or via dm, let me know what pharmacy you're going to.

If it's one of the ones I support I'm more than willing to kick whine and scream to every management individual I know about it violating our company ethics.

If it's not, please consider switching to one of the ones I support. I don't give a shit about your money, I care about you not getting the shit end of the stick.

Heve Stoffman

God I appreciate you and this comment so much. Thank you for acknowledging something us Jews suffer to point out constantly.

As much as we get along on conversation and political theory, I actually hate your ideology. We get along because we agree that a strong government is needed. We disagree because I need it to protect my freedoms, you need it to control the economy.

• A Left Libertarian

No one, it's not worth arguing with that fool. They don't understand reality other than how to mimic catchy sayings like "derntakin' our jerbs" with out consideration they gave up those jobs because "I'm too good to do that kinda work"