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Metal album when

He's even force choking those ones in the background

Day-tah

But I'm from the UK. Anything else would sound bizarre with my accent

That was an interesting read. Are you aware of any cities or towns which are built in a more European style with pedestrians in mind? I'm actually considering a few jobs in the states right now but I'm quite put off by how car reliant everything is.

I've given an example of a potential extraneous factor. That's not the same as a hypothetical case being used to dismiss fringe cases that we know for a fact happen.

I still want to go though

I literally just reworded the same point but ok

The existance of cases where you can be 99.9% certain of guilt does not eliminate the existence of fringe cases. We know for a fact that people HAVE been executed despite being innocent. That's a risk you must accept if you support capital punishment.

It's not a false dichotomy because it IS a dichotomy. It's a binary decision. You either legalise capital punishment and accept the risk of executing someone innocent or you don't legalise it. That is the choice.

But this is a case of all or nothing. You either say the death penalty IS acceptable or it ISN'T. There is no in between. So highlighting a case with certainty doesn't address the issue of cases with less certainty.

Even then, there is some hypothetical scenario that could at least mitigate guilt. For example, drink spiking with some kind of drug. I'm not saying that's what happened or I think that happened, my point is 100% certainty is an impossible bar.

With respect, it kind of misses the point to highlight a case where guilt is basically certain. That's not my concern. My concern is the fringe cases with more ambiguity. I think that if there's even a 1% chance that an innocent person is executed, the risk isn't worth it.

Sure, you've invented a fictional scenario that has never happened but appears quite certain. But even then there are external factors you can't account for such as duress.

That's kinda what it comes down to for me though. Can you EVER be 100% sure? Even if you're 99.5% sure, odds are sooner or later you'll execute someone who was innocent. And in my opinion that one single lost innocent life means the practice is unjustifiable.

I wonder how many people who disagree with me are pro life.

My understanding is that "persons" refers to people in discrete groups, where what separates those groups is pertinent to the topic being discussed.

For example - 'indigenous persons' refers collectively to indigenous people, but acknowledges that there are separate subgroups of indigenous people within that. You could equally say "indigenous people" and it would be correct but you lose that nuance by not acknowledging that there are internal divisions within the group you are referring to.

Not saying that's the dictionary definition, but that's how it's generally used in my field.

I've been inside his mother jokes on him

As an outsider looking in, I've seen a lot of footage of rallies and events (on both sides) that are just absolutely crazy to me. Almost dystopian. People with painted faces, all kinds of merch, hollering and shouting and cheering like it's the X Factor or a rock concert or something. You see people being interviewed outside the events and it's like a festival in the background. It's really, really bizarre. We have problems with our politics here too but not like that. I can't believe that all of those people are ACTUALLY that passionate about any policies themselves, it's just vague culture wars nonsense with a bizarre personality contest as a proxy for it.

As I say, I'm not trying to act superior. My country has its share of problems too, just a very different sort.

Nah it's a strangely worded title you're good

That's true but I found that nothing was really so urgent that it particularly mattered. If it did, there should be a 24 hour contingency anyway.

I guess the logic is, and I don't agree, that people will burn out through the day and spend the last couple hours phoning it in. That's not my experience of what actually happens but I think that's what some people think.