tidy_frog @ tidy_frog @lemmy.world

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For a lot of people "unpaid time off" isn't a favor. You're asking them to pay to vote.

Sorry, but voting is a civic duty.

Not a pastime.

Not a hobby.

Not a privilege.

A duty.

Republicans win when you don't vote, and they get you to not vote by making it difficult, if not dangerous.

Just remember, not voting will only ever make things worse.

I cannot vote for you.

Privilege.

Not them tho, you. Your privilege is why you can't understand it.

Are you determined to not have allies of any kind?

I get that your state is fucked, but as a resident of one of the other 49 states, my options to help are limited as long as we lack one of the the chambers of Congress since the gop is literally the problem here.

We could try actually following thru with campaign promises and helping them, but for some reason we dont.

That would be because we don't have control of the House. It's difficult to get work done when the side in control of the button that stops everything from working sits on the fucking button while shrieking racist epitaphs at the top of their lungs.

Incorrect. In FPtP, the presidential race has only two options. Anything else is a vote for the candidate you don't want.

This has been proven mathematically.

The DNC is fucked and run by idiots, no argument. But voting as though you're NOT running a FPtP election when you are actually running a FPtP election is so stupid there are no words in the English language profane enough to describe it.

The system works one way. You play the game, or you get played by the game. Voting third party for president or Senate is not how the game is played, like it or not.

You want change? Vote in your local elections. That's where change starts. Do it enough, and get enough other people to do the same, and THEN you can change things up-ticket.

Play the game. Don't get played. Don't waste your vote. The other option these days is literally a fascist.

The only time I'll vote 3rd party in a FPtP system is when one I agree with officially replaces one of the two major parties. Anything less is a wasted vote for president or senator.

Anything local though...

This.

History. Learn it.

Pay attention in class next time. It's a concern because it happens quite frequently in first past post voting systems.

Voting for a right wing party like the DNC does not position you on the left

It does when the other choice is an actual Nazi.

You do realize that we can disagree on the details and still be on the same side, yes?

Psh...no. That would never work. /s

Why this fossil didn’t bend the knee and allow another younger, more exciting candidate step up for 2024 is beyond me though.

Probably because the geriatrics fucked two whole generations of politicians by not stepping down when they should have.

Gen X and millennials don't have enough horses in the race with the experience necessary to run for president because they got fucked by the boomers.

We're going to be in for an exciting ride over the next two decades as something like 40% of Congress retires or dies in office without anyone with experience available to replace them.

And this is on both sides.

Or maybe you need to understand that the down ticket races are more important than the presidency?

Change in the US starts at the bottom. Not the top.

Fuck the presidency. Just vote for the candidate that isn't going to burn the country down.

You want real change? Real progressivism? Vote progressives into local offices. Your young, progressive education board member today is your congressional rep tomorrow. Your congressional rep today is your presidential hopeful tomorrow.

Let the status quo dems toss whatever geriatric they want at the presidency and vote them in so we don't get another trump, or worse, a president desantis or something.

Presidents don't often push new laws anyway. You want to change the country? Help take the House and the Senate. As long as the president is the same party they're not going to veto progressive legislation.

Fuck the greens. Their leadership takes gop cash to help split the left vote.

You can't vote for moon shot candidates in a first past the post election system. All that ever does is help the candidate you don't want.

If you want to see change, you have to volunteer. Change starts at the bottom. Not at the top.

Or they would have him training his replacement the moment the other offer expired.

Maybe it's out of hand because there's only one printer there? Needs more printer?