What distro to choose in parallel to steamos
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That's good to know! And I'm sure it's beneficial information for those that were unaware of that. However, (unless I'm wrong) the method you described requires you to be deliberate and precise in the placement of your own bang; i.e. bag of d holding or bag of holding d wouldn't work. As I often just start typing whatever I want to search/look for and only notice midway/afterwards that I hadn't specified where I would like to search, the built-in 'bangs' in Firefox/Chrome just wouldn't cut it unless I would try to rewire my behavior.
DuckDuckGO for the bangs, with a custom !bang made for my favorite SearXNG instance; on which most of my 'googling' actually happens.
DuckDuckGO for the bangs, with a custom !bang made for my favorite SearXNG instance; on which most of my 'googling' actually happens.
You should be fine regardless. However, I have at least read from one developer that works on one of the SteamOS clones that there is still some merit in running it on Arch due to how Valve targets that specifically for its SteamOS. One might even get better performances on Arch as the user is able to tweak it beyond what SteamOS offers. But this requires proper know-how, so this route is not recommended for those that are still very novel to Linux.
Perhaps consider watching this excellent video guide on dualbooting and multibooting by DorianDotSlash. It was what I used as a reference the first few times I engaged in dualbooting and/or multibooting.
I'm not very well-versed into all of this, but if what you're referring to is technically known as Unified Kernel Image, then you should know that unfortunately it's currently not supported on systems that rely on ostree; thus unsupported on Silverblue. A lot of work has been gone into this over the last year, but I'm afraid we're still (at least) two major releases removed from proper UKI support. For regular Fedora, consider referring to this excellent guide.
Aight, I actually don't know a lot about it, but I guess something that looks like an answer is better than none. So without further a due.
First of all, Nitrux is quite unique, so I won't be able to do it justice regardless. However, I'd say that it being an 'immutable' distro with OpenRC and focusing on AppImage (over Flatpak/Snap) is the primary one. It's important to note that Nitrux' model doesn't allow you to install .deb packages natively at all. So in that regard, it's one of the less flexible among its 'immutable' siblings. It does offer great support for Distrobox, so you can install your debs, rpms and from the AUR etc if you so desire within a container instead; you can even install other desktop environments with this. Waydroid works. AppArmor is configured. KDE Plasma looks fantastic on Nitrux, but they offer even more spice through their Maui Shell.
If one can afford to pay the higher price, then Star Labs' (or System76' etc) laptops will offer far superior Linux support. Modern hardware from non-'Linux-first' vendors have shown causing troubles with 'deep sleep'. Issues like these can and have been resolved on Star Labs' (or System76' etc) devices. Furthermore, they don't only sell 'Linux-laptops', but they also contribute to the upstream of coreboot and other Linux projects. Thus, by buying their laptops, one is actively contributing to that cause.
Cassidy Glass is aptly named after Cassidy James Blaede's feedback found over here.
Thank you for being quite elaborate!
dell xps 13 9310 laptop with Intel i5 evo processor and I think 8 GB of ram
That should be fine.
I am currently using linux mint 21.2 with cinnamon desktop.
That should be fine as well.
I believe I have installed apps outside of official repos, sometimes successfully other times not. I try not to do that though.
Have you considered installing those apps inside of a container? Distrobox is worth mentioning as it streamlines a lot of this process and even allows one to set a 'distrobox' with its own custom HOME directory. It should make experimentation a whole lot less painful, so you should definitely think about it if you haven't yet.
I'd argue that if you reinstall Linux Mint with TLP -for what it offers in terms of battery life- and install the exotic packages within a distrobox, then most of your concerns would be resolved. Maintaining a healthier system like that should also decrease the rare bugs that you might be facing right now and thus enable you to run a system over a longer time period.
If this course of action makes running your distro too boring, then it's probably worth exploring either Arch or Gentoo as a dualboot alongside Linux Mint. Linux Mint would be used for school/work or whatsoever, while Arch/Gentoo is where all the 'fun' happens. Both distros also play a lot nicer with packages not found in the official repos, so they should necessarily offer a better experience.
The issues you're experiencing are peculiar for sure. Though some of the things you've mentioned do ring some bells for me; specifically from the time I was new to Linux and installed a bunch of (random) stuff to get more battery life out of my laptop.
First of all, unfortunately an all-encompassing software that ensures optimal performance at all times simply does not exist. Your best bet would be running a distro that does a lot of heavy lifting to ensure a good experience regardless of your hardware. So let's start with a healthy dose of questions to make sure we're all on the same wavelength:
- Could you inform us regarding your hardware specifics?
- What distro do you run?
- How long ago did you install the distro?
- Did you ever install software that was not available in the official repositories and is not otherwise delivered as a self-contained package-deal (read: flatpaks, snaps, appimages etc)?
- Were the issues there from the get-go? Or did you do some things that might have triggered them? And if so, do you have any suspicions on what that something might be?
P.S. if it isn't khamzatsmom 🤣🤣. Welcome to the better platform 😉! Btw, I'm not surprised to hear that you're met with random issues if you continue to run more niche distros for the heck of it 🤣🤣. Sure; you're free to do whatever you want, but running a sane distro as a start will make a huge difference.
How many members does the development team behind Nitrux consist of? I think it's a very cool project, but I tend to be cautious with distros that aren't safe from the bus factor. While googling for answers; I've only seen the primary/main developer being named. Can anyone provide a conclusive answer on the matter?
As others have already (somewhat) alluded to; it's best to buy a laptop from a company that offers devices on which Linux users are first-class citizens. Therefore, any device that specifically fits your needs (hardware-wise) from either NovaCustom, Star Labs, System76, Tuxedo etc should fit the bill. Furthermore, it's worth noting that Nvidia GPUs have a known bad track record on Linux. The possibility exists that you won't even notice it on any of the devices sold by any of the aforementioned vendors. However, I'd argue it's still mindful to be cautious.
Should I better buy all of AMD (if yes, which CPI, GPU) or Intel/Nvidia? Or Intel CPU and AMD GPU? Which combination is the right one with best performance for a casual gamer? I prefer FPS games, if that’s important…
AMD has been doing very good for some time and the fact that the Steam Deck is powered by AMD is very telling of what the current status quo is. However, I don't think it's a hard requirement. Sure, going full-AMD has it's merits, but you should be fine regardless.
First of all, thank you for replying 💙 !
Can’t install a new system package for most immutable distros without going through some magic incantation
blendOS:
Replace sudo pacman -Syu with system install
Fedora's 'immutable' distros:
Replace sudo dnf install with rpm-ostree install
openSUSE's 'immutable' distros:
Replace sudo zypper install with sudo transactional-update pkg install
While Guix and NixOS offer somewhat similar functionality with their guix install and nix-env -iA commands respectively, usage of said comments are rarely done by advanced users as other means to install packages are more sophisticated. And in terms of how sophisticated installing a mere package can get, one might argue that Guix and NixOS are to 'immutable' distros what Gentoo is to mutable distros.
And with that we just went over the 'immutable' distros that are prevalent in 95% of the discourse (besides Vanilla OS; but that one's in a major overhaul) and none of the commands found above strike me as particularly hard. Though, of course, your mileage may vary.
then doing a reboot
I'll just briefly mention that --apply-live exist for Fedora's immutable distros if you like living on the edge. Furthermore, both Guix and NixOS don't require a reboot in most cases. Finally, while the soft-reboot feature from systemd benefits all distros, one can't deny how impactful it is to 'immutable' distros in particular.
an inflexible immutable distro
Besides the somewhat unfortunate and false 'immutable' name, what makes them inflexible according to you?
I’d say that they’re mainly made for CI/CD, cloud environments etc, and probably not something you want to put in a laptop and use as a daily driver.
Why do you think that? Would you be so kind to elaborate?
Becase of that and your recommendation I will probably switch to silverblue.
Silverblue is incidentally also my daily-driver; custom image through uBlue's template to be more precise*.
Im a little scared of selinux (I was thinkering too much with fedora) but better with it than without.
Yup, SELinux is definitely a double-edged sword in that it's very powerful but can therefore be a bit more restrictive. Though, currently it's our only bet when it comes to confining containers as it's (vastly) superior over AppArmor in that aspect. Which explains openSUSE's recent conversion from AppArmor to SELinux for their distros that rely heavily on container workflows; like MicroOS, Aeon, Kalpa etc. Unfortunately it's not the easiest to understand, but I'm sure you'll manage 😉!
For AUR apps I will use distrobox.
Hehe, you know what's good 😛.
While technically not a Linux distro, Qubes OS is the gold standard. With the primary cons being that it's kinda hard on system requirements and it doesn't play nice with dedicated GPUs and thus software that would require it.
Honorable mentions would be Fedora Silverblue/Kinoite/Sericea, Kicksecure, openSUSE Aeon/Kalpa and Vanilla OS. Of course, regular Fedora and openSUSE Tumbleweed are still good even without being immutable. The aforementioned distros all have varying levels of hardening out of the box. While the offerings of Fedora and openSUSE have better defaults than most other distros, Kicksecure -which is made by the same team behind Whonix- is almost completely hardened from the get-go. Vanilla OS is in a major overhaul, so I refrain from making any strong judgements on it yet.
For whatever it's worth, a couple of years ago the (infamous) Madaidan (AKA security researcher on Kicksecure and Whonix) did recommend running minimalist distros like Alpine, Artix, Gentoo and Void for the sake of security. However, he did that recommendation on the basis of minimalism and zero-trust. However, that would require the system administrator (read: you) to actually know their shit. Which, unfortunately, is often times not the case as not everyone that's sensitive of their digital security proceeds to study cybersecurity. That's where the "honorable mentions" in the previous paragraph come into play; all of the distros that were mentioned within actually have shown to take security very seriously and acknowledge with the amount of heavy-lifting they do that they hold a sense of responsibility in that regard.
Im most interested in blendOS, because its based.
I once had an interaction with its primary developer and the dude was oblivious on which MAC was configured on his distro; spoiler-alert: none. It does a bunch of cool stuff, but I wouldn't call it secure (by default) by any stretch of the imagination.
This used to be the case until the launch of the Steam Deck, on which SteamOS (3) is actually based on Arch instead. However, SteamOS is a very special distro based on Arch due to 'immutability', how it achieves said 'immutability', the implications thereof, 'freezing' of packages, inability to install packages persistently without some hacking etc. So, SteamOS is not representative of how Arch works in general.
And Ubuntu is based on Debian.
If we take your average (popular) distro, so the likes of Gentoo, NixOS etc are dismissed as they are very unique compared to the others, then arguably the most important differentiators would be: Model for updates, package manager and available packages. One might delve deeper into this and with the advent of stuff like Distrobox this becomes a lot more blurred, but traditionally speaking the aforementioned three things used to be the main differentiators. Beyond those, the end-user has the freedom to do whatever with their system. For example, Pop!_OS comes with GNOME + their own touches by default. However, the desktop mode of SteamOS comes with KDE. But you can install KDE on Pop!_OS and even customize it very closely to how it's done over at SteamOS. This is not a special quality of Pop!_OS, but of Linux in general.
It's important to note that both of these are not unique in what they offer in terms of UI/UX. You can recreate 99% of it yourself, simply by installing the appropriate desktop environment; which constitutes most of the UI/UX. Nitrux has KDE as its desktop environment (with a touch of Maui), while deepin uses the Deepin desktop environment. Personally, I wouldn't recommend any desktop environment beyond Cinnamon, GNOME, KDE and Xfce. Don't be discouraged by this though, feel free to put Nitrux and deepin on a Live USB to get a feel for them. Regarding good UI/UX, your best bets are probs Kubuntu, Linux Mint, openSUSE and Pop!_OS. Honourable mention would be MX Linux, but I don't recommend systemd-less distros to newer users.
Sure, Nitrux is based on Debian. But it's immutable, systemd-less and favors AppImages over Flatpak/Snap. It's a cool project, but I find it hard to recommend to a newer user. While deepin is less unique by comparison, it's far from a distro that's known for its polish. I'd argue it's mostly just eye-candy instead 😅.
Bullseye! This isn't a hard rule though. I started venturing into Linux through a somewhat obscure distro as well 😅. But, at the time, I researched for about a week which distro to install and why. Afterwards I spent another week on how I should install it and what should be considered for install. And then I installed it, after which I spent almost two weeks getting the system to a working state. It still wasn't quite there yet, but after spending a month on it from start to finish I wanted to move on to something else 😅. I kept the install, don't get me wrong. And it became my daily-driver. After some time I even 'fell in love with it'. But like, I know that I can be stubborn about things like this and persevere where others might have preferred to hit their heads to the wall instead. So your mileage may vary...
As you've correctly assessed, you are indeed lost 😅 . That's fine, I think almost all of us have been lost at some point in time. Uhmm..., but honestly, I think you're conflating two very distinct things. Pop!_OS is a general-use distro on which you can do whatever. And most distros that people talk about and engage with are similarly general-use distros. SteamOS, on the other hand, isn't quite like that. Sure, you may hack your way and achieve some things with it. But it's false to believe that you can find any distro that qualifies as SteamOS but on your laptop. Before giving you any recommendations, would you be so kind to answer the following: