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  • Can you actually explain what in my reply is "Fear, uncertainty, and doubt"? Did you actually read it? I even linked to the specific github repository, which is basically empty. You just link to an overview, which does not point to any source code.

    Please explain whats FUD and link to the source code, otherwise do not call people FUD if you don't know what you are talking about.

  • Define “open sourced model”.

    The term itself is actually shockingly simple. Source is the original material that was used to build this model, training data and all files that are needed to compile and create the model. It's Open Source, if these files are available (preferably with an Open Source compatible license). It's not. We only get binary data, the end result and some intermediate files to fine tune it.

  • None of the code and training data is available. Its just the usual Huggingface thing, where some weights and parameters are available, nothing else. People repeat DeepSeek (and many other) Ai LLM models being open source, but they aren't.

    They even have a Github source code repository at https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1 , but its only an image and PDF file and links to download the model on Huggingface (plus optional weights and parameter files, to fine tune it). There is no source code, and no training data available. Also here is an interesting article talking about this issue: Liesenfeld, Andreas, and Mark Dingemanse. “Rethinking open source generative AI: open washing and the EU AI Act.” The 2024 ACM Conference on Fairness, Accountability, and Transparency. 2024

  • They would be illegal in the US only, not the rest of the world. Meaning you can get it somewhere else.

  • Well its still not Open Source.

  • That usually don't happen. Hopefully you did not lose any personal data. What distributions were you using? I wonder what happened there, that both of your different distributions had a black screen after an update.

  • I'm glad the big focus on bug fixes since several sub versions. KDE feels rock solid on Wayland.

  • Just because they call it Open Source does not make it. DeepSeek is not Open Source, it only provides model weights and parameters, not any source code and training data. I still don't know whats in the model and we only get "binary" data, not any source code. This is not Libre software.

  • Thanks for confirmation. I made a top level comment too, because this important information gets lost in the comment hierarchy here.

  • How is this Open Source? The official repository https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1 contains images only, a PDF file, and links to download the model. I don't see any code. What exactly is Open Source here? And if so, where to get the source code?

  • Is it Open Source? I cannot find the source code. The official repository https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1 only contains images, a PDF file, and links to download the model. But I don't see any code. What exactly is Open Source here?

  • Well its one thing to tell that in comments like this, and another thing to prove it with benchmarks. And not all games are CPU limited, it depends.

  • Why? Full RayTracing with highest quality settings on some games is even for a 5090 too much. So it makes sense to play them at lower resolution (in example with upscaling, but its still lower res). Especially if you aim for very high FPS. Maybe for some games you aim to play at 240 fps, in which case 1440p or even 1080p is the only option, not 4k. Depending on the games.

    And if you are not even considering to play at lower res, you might be interested in how it compares to other cards you already own and play at 1080p. Just to get an idea of how much it improves. Its not a wrong market, you just don't see his or her use case.

  • I'm more interested into single player games like the Batman and Half-Life games. Otherwise there is not a lot to me.

  • Microsoft said in the past (around launch of Xbox Series) that they are not interested into VR. And given that the VR2 headset didn't sell too much on the PS5, I don't think that Microsoft goes the extra mile to implement this feature to a game that is not even build around it. Not saying it won't happen, but its unlikely. Hope I am wrong though, for people who enjoy VR. Maybe this could be used as a "training vehicle" to port to VR, then port it to other VR platforms as well on PC.

    I personally wait until Valve makes a VR headset for cheap price that can be used without cables, something like the Meta Quest but for the Steam eco system and by my trusted Valve.