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  • I don't get it.

    I don't even like IPAs all that much.

    But like... Pumpkin Spice is a seasonal artificial flavor that is I think annoying to people because it's made its way into everything from marshmallows to crackers to milk.

    IPA is a style of beer. That's it.

  • I'm not assuming that. I'm giving this person a possible reason that people who identify as conservative get lumped together in online discourse, despite the fact that they probably don't deserve to be lumped together.

    Although if I'm being honest this overall topic is about "conservatives boycotting Starfield over pronoun usage", which I think does give the entire conversation a bit of a US slant. Again, my comment in no way made any assumptions about this user, just trying to give some explanation of why things end up discussed the way they are. But even if I did make that assumption I think given the other context of the thread I could be forgiven. Unless there are idiots in other countries getting their panties in a bunch over pronoun usage as well, which I sincerely hope there are not.

  • You might be right it isn't fair to lump all conservatives together.

    Considering the amount of blatant misinformation acceptance required to be a Republican these days I think it's pretty fair to lump all Republicans together.

    The issue is that Republicans have historically represented conservative viewpoints, so they are spoken of synonymously. The Republican party is so distorted that it is arguably no longer conservative in any recognizable way, but because it used to be the conservative party (and because they still claim to be conservative) you get a lot of people considering them the same.

  • The argument works exactly the same the other way. Your rationale is based on your own preferences.

    In a vacuum both tobacco and alcohol are destructive vices with no real discernible objective "benefits" to larger society. The argument against alcohol is exactly the same as the one against tobacco products. They harm the user and potentially those around them.

    I'm not saying that tobacco should be further regulated while alcohol is not. But I am saying that the rationale for alcohol regulation is ultimately based on a desire to limit destructive behavior, which is the same rationale for limits on tobacco. You cannot effectively argue for deregulation of tobacco while arguing for increased regulation of alcohol. They are two sides of the same coin.

  • I think a lot of people forget that Bill Gates was on a similar (if less public) fuck face path as Musk is on now. His complete turn toward philanthropism is pretty incredible.

    I'm not saying he hasn't done awful things, I'm not saying he hasn't crushed the little guy, I'm not even saying at a basic level he's a good person. But he's used his incredible wealth to do a lot of good in the world, and with incredibly flippant monsters like Musk showing us the alternative I feel like it's worth re-acknowledging.

  • Pushy, ignorant, reactionary, racist, isolationist, nationalist. Stick our noses into the matters of other countries where we don't belong. Assume everything is centered around us. War/military happy. Arrogant. Loud.

    Not sure if I'm missing any, but these are the prevailing things I see when people are talking about the US and the people who live here.

    What is hard is that there are of course people (many people, even) that match one or multiple of those descriptions. But the same as it is silly to generalize all of Europe (or even any one European country), it is silly to generalize all Americans.

  • But... It's still not bad that those smoking regulations are being put in place.

    It weakens the argument for additional alcohol regulation when you keep insisting that the regulations being put on another similar vice are pointless.

  • Only one reply saying you should involve your wife in this decision. Not enough.

    You need to involve your wife in this decision. Her use case is nothing for a modern laptop, either Windows or Mac. Anything new will run like a dream in comparison to what she's got. Literally anything. Get her to a physical store to type on the keyboards and make sure she likes whatever models are in contention. This is highly personal and subjective so other opinions aren't worth much.

    I do think it worth mentioning that switching ecosystems isn't something to do lightly. She needs to be involved in that decision. I've used both Windows and Mac. I'm comfortable with both, but generally prefer Windows. They are way too different to treat the possibility of switching flippantly.

  • The closest example of similar humor I can think of is in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, during the trial of trying to figure out if the woman is a witch. The scientist is there to settle it for the peons, and uses "logic" to solve the problem of whether she is a witch. Ultimately they decide that if she weighs the same as a duck, she must be made of wood, which floats on water, and therefore a witch. It's a series of nonsensical correlations misconstrued as fact, and it's funny because we the viewers understand the absurdity of it.

    I think it's more a bit of wordplay than a joke exactly, but that your friend said is in the same vein. What on earth makes cars go? Well it can't be windows, can it? Houses have windows and they don't go at all! Whether you find that funny is obviously subjective but I also think delivery and conversational context are very important for humor like this.

  • That is threadbare justification for deregulation of something we know has basically entirely negative effects and absolutely is something that kids have historically done.

    Kids' habits are fickle and unpredictable. Removing barriers to destructive behavior simply because they don't do that behavior as often anymore (the current regulations seem to work??) makes no sense.

  • I'm hesitant to spin valid concerns about alcohol into de-vilification of smoking. They are both vices, both unhealthy, both dangerous to the user and those around them for different reasons.

    So yeah, it's valid to say we ignore the dangers of alcohol. But also yes, we should "think of the children" when it comes to tobacco.

  • Why smoking remains so prevalent. I'm sure it's not a majority that smokes, but it is massively more common anywhere I've been in Europe than here in the US. I live in a fairly large city and I will go many days in a row without seeing a single person smoking.

    I just don't really get it. It's gross, it smells, it ruins your teeth and your lungs, and it's expensive. Why do it?