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You're right, which is why we should stop these three genocidal terrorist regimes from clearing out Israel.

Impressive feat. But Iran is still aiding and abetting Hamas's military campaign against Israel.

I find it difficult to believe that the Arab League, which started the war to "sweep the Jews into the sea," would take the loss laying down. Especially since the Six-Day War happened.

And Hezbollah was the one that restarted it, in solidarity with Hamas.

The IDF has about 634,000 personnel in total, but I suppose the other ~90% of the country that isn't shooting the rockets has to go too. Osama bin Laden would be so happy to hear you say that.

So you do want to kill every Israeli. Thanks for your honesty.

And apparently the other three genocidal terrorist regimes are better than them?

Israel and Lebanon have a long, blood-soaked history. And the claim that Hezbollah didn't launch rockets before October 7th is false.

The various surrounding states have been trying to destroy Israel since its inception as well. Just like Iran is funding and arming Hamas and Hezbollah today. I don't need to tell you that all three are incredibly oppressive regimes.

With the number of rockets Hamas and Hezbollah has launched into Israel during "peacetime" while being supplied by Iran, they're doing a great job of staying enemies.

An actual, mutually peaceful solution would be better. Hamas has turned down or broken ceasefire after ceasefire. There is no reason to trust them at this point.

Assuming that's true, that's one group within the government. Find them, try them, and imprison them. On the other side are three entire genocidal terrorist regimes. Will you side with them? What do you think we should do with them?

It's not impossible, but I'm saying it isn't guaranteed to be successful. I doubt Israel will agree to this arrangement, and I don't know what nations will be willing to host them indefinitely. And given that Osama bin Laden orchestrated 9/11 partly because of the US's alliance with the Jews, do you think these groups that hate Jews so much won't consider striking their new homes?

I'm not calling them that on my own. I'm describing them the way multiple other nations have described them - not Israel. You only need to see their actions towards their own population to see why.

And I later asked how this will appease all these other actors that just want to wipe Israel off the map. How will that happen?

Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas want to kill them all, though.

That will require an agreement with the host nations. That is not guaranteed by any means, nor is their safety before, during, or after the evacuation.

Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations, and Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. Do you want to go to bat for them?

Okay, so where should they go? If Israel is dissolved and the territory handed back to the Palestinian people, there will be a massive ethnic cleansing at the hands of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran. Extracting every single Israeli would create yet another refugee crisis somewhere in the world - speaking strictly in terms of how to materially support all these people.

So, should they all just leave or die? Or will handing over a tiny sliver of land magically appease Hezbollah, which insists that Israel must be destroyed, Hamas, which was founded with the goal of destroying Israel,, and Iran, which wants to completely erase Israel?