thatsage @ thatsage @lemmy.world

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My go to research technique is googling "question reddit". This would ruin me

Hamas is doing 100% of what it can. And thankfully yeah, they're not very good at it (well, recently they had a pretty horrific success).

Israel on the other hand isn't anywhere near operating at capacity.

Ridiculous notion.

Palastinians can even get work permits and enter Israel.

Context you seem to leave out is wars of defense.

Israel definitely could have treated palastinians better, but not in matters of land... Israel didn't force them out of their land. It was founded legally and went on to win territory in wars in which it was the defender and offered innocents to stay and gain citizenship.

Later on, the palastinians didn't agree to several 2 state proposals which Israel did agree to, thus relinquishing again the keys to their own future.

Israel invested and invests into their infrastructure, which they don't manage well usually, like the water treatment plans Israel transfered to them when exiting Gaza.

Afghanistan's story is not the same as that of Hamas and will not end the same, I hope as many innocent people of either side come out on top and have a chance at a peaceful future, with Hamas buried and gone.

Gaza and Israel could normallize relations and Gaza could prosper.

Iran is involved, they fund and support Hamas, teach them even.

Except the only real guilty party there is Zanza, and they do end up living peacefully with each other once Zanza is removed.

Hamas is Zanza.

Hamas isn't their hope. If they were lead by a peaceful and sane govermant, instead of terrorists, Gaza would've looked so much better today.

Hamas doesn't care about Gaza and it's people, the leaders are corrupt and living abroad, the money that's meant for schools and services and infrastructure goes to their pockets or weapons, and the biggest prisoner of Hamas is Gaza itself.

You can easily find Hamas own videos and learn from them.

They're not even pretending, they outright say they're running a jihadist war against Jews.

How does it serve Israel for Hamas to exist if it wants to eliminate them?

Seems that one might be a mistake. But the rest isn't, instead they did things like tie children and then shoot them.

Having seen what Hamas did, can you really deny they're terrorists, on the same level as ISIS? Filming themselves, kidnapping teens, rape and torture, beheading babies... Parading half naked bodies in the streets to spit and cheer at.

I want Netanyahu out of office. But he's not running around doing that, don't be ridiculous.

If Israel wanted land why did it agree to several 2 state solutions (which palastinians declined)? Why did it exit Gaza?

Reality...

Arguments, not proof, also unstated ones - we only see drawn conclusions. Israel didn't confirm or accept blame, but I won't deny it could've been a mistake or a moment of confusion. But that would still not be "attacking evacuation convoys", but an isolated case, especially since, it seems according to the article that the designation of safe roads happened after the strike - though the timing is also not exact.

Israel does not want to harm innocent civilians. If you don't believe that, surely you agree that it has nothing to gain from that but bad influence.

Yes, I remember when I learned about it, I was shook to the core... The harvesting of organs was cherry on top, absolute horror...

Israel didn't bomb evacuation convoys, from what I know at least, it's fake news.

I think this is unprecedented. Everything about this actually, not just Israel deciding to end Hamas... So I don't know if history showed this before, I do know that previous attempts at pacifying Hamas - as opposed to ending it - did happen, and we definitely see now they achieved nothing...

Iarael's response is to destroy the terrorist organizario that is responsible for all of this misery.

They raped and tortured them form what I understand.

The only party interested in genocide is Hamas. And Iran.