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Pseudo-scientific grifting.

It's literally just people trying to raise money by using misleading and humanizing words like "scheming" and "thinking" when it's just a computer puking out words.

Just the fact that they label computer processes as "thinking" indicates how far removed from science this is. It's just a function built from (stealing) "big" data. This is like marketing versus compsci101.

understanding how LLMs work, but we know how brains work and that still gives us almost 0 insight into how consciousness itself works.

That's not a counter-argument. The fact that we know exactly how LLMs work is great evidence that it's not the same as something that works completely different and is only partially understood.

This of me is a huge indicator of consciousness/sentience.

Cool story. As someone who understands how LLMS work, it's not an indicator of anything for me.

I agree that there’s a general consensus about consciousness

So what is it?

But I still don’t see this paper really doing much in DEFINING Consciousness, it’s more defining what it isn’t.

Yeah there's no clear definition in there. The paper fails to do what it was purported to do.

It doesn’t seem to me that this would preclude AI,

"Consequently, the weight of evidence indicates that humans are not unique in possessing the neurological substrates that generate consciousness. Non-human animals, including all mammals and birds, and many other creatures, including octopuses†, also possess these neurological substrates."

It doesn't say anything about Excel spreadsheets.

I believe we will achieve consciousness on a human level in AI within a decade.

Have you ever seen 2001 A Space Odyssey? This grift never ends.

Ai exposes, I think, the uncomfortable fact that intelligence does not require a soul.

These kinds of statements are completely pseudo-scientific.

"AI" doesn't exist. It doesn't "expose" anything about "intelligence" or "souls".

It's impossible to "kill" a computer that was never alive/conscious.

There are better takes but you have to search for them.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/abolition@slrpnk.net

How many of you have criminals as friends? None. You know why? Because they’ll lie and steal from you just as fast as anyone else - that’s why.

Grow up. Most "crimes" are bullshit and most "criminals" are fine people.

Nobody wants to be friends with Trump because he's a fascist who attacks people both legally and illegally, although there's no conviction/punishment when the rich/privileged commit "crimes".

No thanks on the nationalist "we". Cultspeak.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

Frank first uses a singular personal pronoun (“I”), but then quickly corrects to the plural personal pronoun “we.” Why? Because when you're leading a cult, you need to imply family, collectiveness, exclusivity at each moment. Frank's consistently creates an "us versus them" scenario. Although it's unclear who "they" are, that hardly matters to his followers. They are much too busy "looking harder" (at what?) "digging deeper" (to where?) and "mining that pure, unbridled potential (of what?)" - https://www.whatmakesgreatwriting.com/p/dont-worry-darling

Misleading "AI" shilling. Literally zero "intelligence" involved in this simple program apart from the programmer.

It's fairly gross and dehumanizing how people write these programs but all the credit is given to some phony marketing term.

So 3 lines of code is enough "intelligence" for you? I can see how that definition might have been popular among grifters in like the 1930s.

This is a garbage, subjective, pseudo-scientific definition.

And even if I entertain this nonsense, what kind of fool thinks that a minesweeper solver is "intelligent"?

What's the old sense? A program? "AI" didn't exist in the old days and it doesn't exist now.

The logic here is like 3 lines of code maybe? The ubiquity of "AI" grifting has made language meaningless.

Ardour is a terrible DAW. I don't think these people make music.

Independent of whom/what?

https://www.dietdoctor.com/

lmao. no time for this. enuf grifting...

Fuck the olympics. It's an oppressive, leeching grift in service of nationalism, imperialism, capitalism, etc.

https://nolympicsla.com/

This again? Fake imperial news.

• https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-were-protests-in-gaza-anti-hamas/a-72067223
• https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2023/11/29/fact-check-have-rare-anti-hamas-protests-really-broken-out-in-gaza