sugar_in_your_tea @ sugar_in_your_tea @sh.itjust.works

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Costco size in the US:

For those in less free areas, that's about 3x the size as the one in the picture. Regular grocery-store mayo (in a jar) is about half the Costco size (something like 850 grams?), and mayo in a squeeze bottle is about the size of the jar picture above.

We, uh, kinda like mayo here...

Yup. There was a time when Mozilla was somewhat dominant, so browsers unlocked features based on the browser being Mozilla (as opposed to Internet Explorer).

For reference, this is the first time I've watched anything by PirateSoftware, and I've only heard about him in the past week or so. So I'm coming at this from a pretty neutral position and as someone who generally supports SKG (I'm not in Europe so I can't sign, but I would if I could).

Clip of his response

Looks like he's responding more to online bullying, not the petition. The only time he mentions Ross at all (and not even by name) is him giving sarcastic support (hope petition gets everything you asked for, but nothing you wanted), which underscores his view that the petition is overly vague.

The video summary is useful, it looks like PirateSoftware completely missed what the petition was for. I've read the petition and watched the supporting materials, and it's clear to me that the focus is to make games (SP or MP) continue to work in some fashion for those that bought it after support ends. But it seems PirateSoftware somehow misinterpreted it as "all games must be playable SP after support ends," which isn't the case at all. Using the WoW example, players just want to keep doing raids w/ friends after support ends, and they're happy to host the server themselves.

here’s the best I could find

I think that's the one I read. Here's my takeaway, I obviously haven't confirmed everything (I'd rather not dig through his videos)

WoW controversy part

Idk, that situation looks dumb. I don't know who the group leader was, but here's how it seems to have unfolded:

1. someone says run (beginning of the clip), so he runs
2. on the way out he exhausts his manna trying to save the group
3. someone else says to come back because they're getting wrecked
4. seconds later that same person says "just run"

I don't think there's a good outcome there. Either he returns to help the person getting wrecked and likely dies (I'm not familiar w/ WoW, but it seems he's out of resources), or he runs and doesn't die, and there are conflicting commands from the group. It was a tense situation and the group was looking for someone to blame. The article mentions the group worked it out.

I think what he’s done is pretty scummy

Here's how I see it, taking things from PirateSoftware's perspective:

1. misinterprets the petition (honest mistake IMO), probably because Ross Scott isn't some suave presenter and jumped to conclusions (i.e. this is just some angry gamer who threw something together); that last part is absolutely speculation on my part, drawn from my own initial reaction
2. got a ton of unrelated backlash, like people digging through his history to defame him, death threats, etc
3. he doesn't see his error, and instead sees Ross Scott as the unwitting leader of a horde of angry gamers who are going to accidentally destroy a chunk of his industry

What needed to happen is for PirateSoftware and Ross Scott to jump on a call to clarify the petition. It's absolutely fine if he still thinks it's a bad petition, but at least ensure you understand what it's talking about so you can elucidate reasons for opposing it.

I think PirateSoftware is your typical self-centered streamer/YouTuber. He probably didn't watch Ross Scott's rebuttal, probably because the community's reaction left a bad taste in his mouth. On the flipside, one of the streamers I like also initially rejected the petition (not sure if he changed his mind, I don't watch him all that often), probably because the rational initial reaction to proposed laws is to reject them.

I think it's an unfortunate situation. I wish Ross Scott was more charismatic. I wish PirateSoftware didn't misread the petition. I wish they jumped on a call to work through the details, which would be especially valuable to Ross Scott to get the feedback of an industry insider. A lot of unfortunate things happened, but I still don't think PirateSoftware is a bad person, I think he's just a typical streamer who tends to jump to conclusions (easy to do when doing things live) and is a bit self-centered (which you need to be as a streamer IMO).

Anyway, that's my take given the limited amount of time I've spent on this.

indie games that no one plays

Well yeah, most indie games suck. If I pick a random game from Steam, the chance of it sucking is pretty high. Indie games fight an uphill battle of marketing and standing out from the crowd.

Some indie games rock, the problem is finding them. AAA solves this with massive marketing budgets.

Notice how Disney hasn’t cracked the novel as a medium.

They have.

Is there some kind of summary I can read? I don't follow him and only read a couple articles about the situation and it didn't seem all that bad. But maybe it was.

The one video I half watched was him defending Godot from people overexaggerating, so I don't see evidence of him being a scummy person in general.

Yeah, that's why I generally avoid the more popular channels. I just don't care about internet drama and just want to watch some decent content.

You can based on the port.

And they moved the start menu.

Just think what we could accomplish if we focused efforts elsewhere...

I like how someone put it in another thread: we're gamers, if we see enemies, we know we're going in the right direction.

Are his parents rich?

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I use openSUSE, and they made a music video and everything to teach people to pronounce it yet people still get it wrong. Such is life I guess.

And the mascot is a robot, it makes sense to assume it rhymes.

welcome to the internet

Yeah, this is the sucky part about the modern internet. It used to be that the internet was a place for discussion and we've twisted it to a place to enforce conformity.

I don't know anything about this guy, so maybe there's a more established pattern here, but ideally we don't jump down someone's throat when they do one or two unpopular things, but instead wait for a pattern to emerge before getting out the pitchforks. But everyone needs to be first, because the first one gets the eyeballs and there's not much downside to ruining someone's reputation unnecessarily.

It's stupid and I hate it.

I don't understand why he's getting flamed so hard. I get that it's an unpopular take, but the reaction is way overboard. Why is the community like this?

Sure. If you live in an area where kids may need to reach out, sure, give them a loaner phone or something, or one of those watches that can only contact a fixed set of numbers (you and trusted emergency contacts).

Exactly. Vibe coding is bad, but generating code for something you don't touch often but can absolutely understand is totally fine. I've used it to generate SQL queries for relatively odd cases, such as CTEs for improving performance for large queries with common sub-queries. I always forget the syntax since I only do it like once/year, and LLMs are great at generating something reasonable that I can tweak for my tables.

than reading an actual intro on an unfamiliar topic

The LLM helps me know what to look for in order to find that unfamiliar topic.

For example, I was tasked to support a file format that's common in a very niche field and never used elsewhere, and unfortunately shares an extension with a very common file format, so searching for useful data was nearly impossible. So I asked the LLM for details about the format and applications of it, provided what I knew, and it spat out a bunch of keywords that I then used to look up more accurate information about that file format. I only trusted the LLM output to the extent of finding related, industry-specific terms to search up better information.

Likewise, when looking for libraries for a coding project, none really stood out, so I asked the LLM to compare the popular libraries for solving a given problem. The LLM spat out a bunch of details that were easy to verify (and some were inaccurate), which helped me narrow what I looked for in that library, and the end result was that my search was done in like 30 min (about 5 min dealing w/ LLM, and 25 min checking the projects and reading a couple blog posts comparing some of the libraries the LLM referred to).

I think this use case is a fantastic use of LLMs, since they're really good at generating text related to a query.

It’s going to say something plausible, and you tautologically are not in a position to verify it.

I absolutely am though. If I am merely having trouble recalling a specific fact, asking the LLM to generate it is pretty reasonable. There are a ton of cases where I'll know the right answer when I see it, like it's on the tip of my tongue but I'm having trouble materializing it. The LLM might spit out two wrong answers along w/ the right one, but it's easy to recognize which is the right one.

I'm not going to ask it facts that I know I don't know (e.g. some historical figure's birth or death date), that's just asking for trouble. But I'll ask it facts that I know that I know, I'm just having trouble recalling.

The right use of LLMs, IMO, is to generate text related to a topic to help facilitate research. It's not great at doing the research though, but it is good at helping to formulate better search terms or generate some text to start from for whatever task.

general search on the web?

I agree, it's not great for general search. It's great for turning a nebulous question into better search terms.

Hmm, I guess I'm weird then, because graphics don't excite me very much. If a game is good, I don't really care how detailed the graphics are, as long as the art style is good.