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We still don't know the price of the device. I think this device has to really target a low, potentially subsidized, price point in order to be worth it over existing handheld devices capable of streaming (or even running games locally), and if that's the case, it may suffer from the Amazon Fire problem of being incredibly locked down and not seeing as large a development community as would be necessary to achieve a "no restrictions" Android setup. If Sony is subsidizing the device, they would really prefer it if consumers stay within their media ecosystem rather than having the ability to go out and use and/or pay for services that don't allow Sony to recuperate their losses.

It is also possible that the device seen here is just running Android for testing purposes, and the final device will ship with something more locked-down. This seems unlikely due to being far more effort than just using common tablet hardware and shipping Android, but Sony may prefer to do that to achieve more control over the device.

This is why I'm intentionally staying away from high-refresh-rate displays until I can feasibly upgrade everything I use to that standard (phone, TV+consoles, desktop monitors, etc). I don't know exactly what I'm missing out on and ignorance here is bliss.

Unless LOS or a different custom ROM can re-enable the "old" work profile behavior, having access to the latest version of Android might be a detriment compared to an older version that still at least receives security updates (as I assume the Pixel mentioned here does).

I run LineageOS myself, and while I don't think this change is enough of a dealbreaker to prevent me from ever updating past LOS20 if this change isn't addressed somehow in either AOSP or LOS, it will make me less enthusiastic about immediately jumping to LOS21 the moment it's made available to my device.

I would really like to have a headphone jack but the other benefits the Fairphone brings (longevity, easily replaceable parts, more effort on ethically sourcing components than pretty much any other manufacturer) allow me to begrudgingly make that tradeoff and just have a dongle permanently occupying space in my pocket.

I'm also using a OnePlus 5T (with LineageOS from day 1), and plan to replace it with a Fairphone should it die and there's a good model available with US bands. I'm fine with importing the newest Fairphone should it release by that time, but the Fairphone 4 is also available directly in the US as well.

I think what's impressive here is the first party, OEM support for feature updates on Android lasting as long as it has for this phone. That's really not something you tend to see even on Google's flagships (though security updates are still regular and better than what the Fairphone sees officially).

IMO, smartphones have basically plateaued in the past at least five years - a flagship model from 2015 should be sufficient for basic usage today, assuming the battery and modem hardware was somehow kept up to date and software updates were provided as well, and flagship models from like 2018 onwards were a better deal than today's flagships, providing comparable real-world functionality at a lower price even if the spec sheet pales by comparison. I don't think most other OEMs have the incentives to provide that kind of long-term support on older but still usable hardware, but Fairphone absolutely is.

There is no Fairphone 5 released yet in any regions.

This is, IMO, the biggest yet least obvious advantage of immutable systems. A traditional Linux environment is "just as safe" as the immutable setups, if only the user/administrator is perfect, never makes a mistake, and always makes the right decisions for now and the future.

Given reality tends to differ from the above, having a system that, at a bare minimum, provides you the "oh shit go back" button to system-level changes, and at best provides a clear, reproducible, trail of actions, is a huge advantage for long-term stability for all users, experienced or not. I've been through the school of hard knocks far too many times maintaining everything from server setups to gaming desktops the traditional way, and have committed to "early adopting" immutable distros for pretty much everything except the gaming setup (given the whole suite of proprietary and out-of-date/out-of-touch applications that are basically necessary in that space and not-fully-compatible with the sandboxes and abstraction layers necessary).