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Beyond words that are "leaked" to the press, what exact pressure has Biden put on Israel?

Bush and Reagan were able to successfully pressure Israel despite both supporting the occupation.

Biden is a lifelong Zionist ideologue.

can we get a candidate that doesn't do genocide

It's solved many problems.

The point that the American historians quoted above are making is that if you enjoy certain policies, like being able to vote for senators, women's rights, or progressive taxation, thank a third party voter.

Instead of trying to convince tens of thousands of voters in each swing state to handwave a genocide, you should ask Biden to stop the genocide. It's the more realistic strategy, and it's also the moral one.

I think you're confused, I'm not voting for someone who is carrying out a genocide.

If you want me to vote for a certain candidate, you should convince that candidate to stop the genocide.

When one of the two major parties becomes tired of losing elections, they adopt policies from a third party to attract their voters.

The impact of third parties on American politics extends far beyond their capacity to attract votes. Minor parties, historically, have been a source of important policy innovations. Women’s suffrage, the graduated income tax, and the direct election of senators, to name a few, were all issues that third parties espoused first.

• Rosenstone, Behr and Lazarus

Yes, fairly close to that. 3rd party votes, uncommitted, and no-votes are all tracked, and people studying the (lack of) interest in the candidates take note.

Not voting or voting third party for POTUS does nothing.

While that's a popular and oft-repeated opinion, it's heterodox among academic historians.

"Let a third party once demonstrate that votes are to be made by adopting a certain demand, then one of the other parties can be trusted to absorb it. Ultimately, if the demand has merit, it will probably be translated into law or practice by the major party that has taken it up…The chronic supporter of third party tickets need not worry, therefore, when he is told, as he surely will be told, that he is “throwing away his vote.” [A] glance through American history would seem to indicate that his kind of vote is after all probably he most powerful vote that has ever been cast."

• John D. Hicks, Professor Emeritus of American history at Berkeley

Like any other vote, by machine or hand depending on where you live.

Oh? That's odd, I'm not voting for him either.

I rationalize it by listening to Palestinians and their local advocacy groups. Nobody knows better than the victims.

If they see one candidate as better than another, they'll endorse.

Hasn't .world banned a bunch of left-wing hosts? Are you proud of that or something?

The one positive of a Trump presidency is that liberals will be allowed to come out against the genocide.

Believe it or not, I'm familiar with the most common liberal point of view, but thanks for summarizing. Would you also say this is the most important election of our lives?

That's great to hear.

Thanks. The president's genocide and lies, as well as liberal media's lies and genocide support, has given me moral clarity.

Yeah they're on but if I'm protest voting I'll be doing it in solidarity with Palestinian groups, which I'm assuming will be similar to primaries.

Nope. No good options.