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  • Because the headline is saying that dealerships won’t sell them period. Which would include used ev vehicles, which is my entire point. The data they collected made little to no effort to distinguish exactly what they were measuring for - new sales by franchised dealerships that were sample sized based off state to state (region to region) as an explanation for a national average/consensus. It doesn’t make sense to me but maybe there’s an aspect about sample sizing I’m not fully grasping.

    Believe it or not I too went through high school science which specifically and religiously looked at statistics p error and all that fun stuff. Perhaps an aspect has faded from memory and I’m way off but I have yet to have 1 personal actually explain where I’m missing understanding or just flat out wrong just quips and insults so I’m not so convinced. Where am I misunderstanding?

  • Check out Errol Musk. Dudes one of the few that think marrying their step daughter is a okay.

  • Fucking this. Not to mention the inbred ass tastes some of the men in his family take to :)

  • Will you elaborate so we can discuss where I went wrong or did you just post this as an insult to feel better about yourself (idrk why else you’d come with a fork to people quietly eating their soup)

  • I was under the impression I had to pay more for a “winterized” version of the car so cold temperatures didn’t kill the battery, do you know if maybe this maintainence/replacement thing is more so a problem for cold places in terms of pricing? I’ve just heard numerous stories about teslas and the repair costs so that’s where that opinion had come from. The only thing I ever heard about other models was the battery and any electrical work if you need it done for some reason.

  • One glaringly obvious “oddity” was the fact that they did representation based on state by state average, but then lumped each state into a group and then tried to say that was representative of the nation? How does that follow? Should it not be based off the nations as a whole if we’re making those generalizations? Margin of error being 3% of thousands is a lot of dealerships.

    All I’m saying is that people need to excercise caution when it comes to statistics. These might be statistically sound measurements but the story they actually tell is much more specific. The data only tells you what you measured, meaning is derived.

    For example, remember the chip shortage? Wonder why they all had such a hard time getting those cars in. Wonder how many of those dealerships if they could get EVs would sell them regardless of the opinion of one franchise owner - because business swings at its own pace. If that owner pushed against them they’d just fire him and hire someone else who won’t have a problem with it.

    Maybe they don’t sell EVs because the populace legitimately doesn’t want one.

    They also mention “translating answers to yes or no” what does that entail? Why was a critical data transformation not explained in detail??

    They make no effort to explain any potential conflicts or any errors with their paper whatsoever- this is a boutique poll presented inappropriately and will be misconstrued by the media as always and echoers.

    Don’t lump this poll with real data science.

  • Statistics or not, the fact remains that there were thousands of dealerships not accounted for. Human choices and interactions that weren’t experienced. So to generalize to every dealership or even most dealerships is dismissive of human choice and paints an inaccurate picture.

    The correlations they draw from this data are far out of the bounds of what the stats actually say and what they do not say. Their data acquisition is sparsely outlined, this isn’t a research paper that was properly conducted. It’s a rando poll that all these news orgs like to pop up to mislead the public by bending the data to fit their narrative. Par for the course of the Washington post.

  • It’s not, there are 60k private dealerships in the US and they weren’t even included in the original survey the Washington post article mentions which is what this article is written on

  • As always the devil is in the details. This article is about another article (Washington post, yall ever notice they get a lot of secondary coverage?) referring to a survey conducted by the sierra club (https://www.sierraclub.org/sites/www.sierraclub.org%2Ffiles%2F2023-05%2FSierraClubRevUpReport2023.pdf)

    They looked at 800 dealership responses from June to November of 2022. The number of dealerships asked are ratio’d with state population of dealerships. Supposedly this is sufficient statistically but the reality is:

    They talked to 800 out of 18,000 franchised dealerships. They didn’t even touch on “private” dealerships which are closer to 60,000.

    To imply that even the majority of dealerships are pushing against EV sales seems a bit off. Not the whole story.

    For example, I wouldn’t recommend anyone buy an electric car if they can’t afford the repair prices, batteries, headlights, etc.

    Just my 2c - looking forward to any conversation we can strike up

  • AAAA

    Jump
  • This person gets it

  • Can’t they just fuck and put it up for sale all ready

  • On god dude. Adults w/o kids should consider investing in the next generation, especially when your investment is actually just you weighing in on governance.

    You’re gonna be an old fart with lots of needs very soon and the grand majority (maybe not, idk how close things are after boomer pop resides) are gonna be younger and your decisions, like it or not, made them in some part who they are

  • Technically both PC and console can tell what you have loaded/connected by the drivers in use (maybe other ways too) so it may switch if you unplug the Xbox controller but if it’s a game they expected to be primarily on console, or played with controller they’ll elect to use that verbiage.

    But for pc games and stuff regularly played on keyboard, devs choose to use the press any key language (generally).

    It might seem silly but UI Devs put a lot of time and effort into making things easy to understand and use and whatnot.

    It’s just a meme tho nbd, just figured I’d bring up the convo piece anyway

  • Straight to Azkaban

  • Is that pc or console - I ask because pcs have keyboards with keys and consoles have controllers with buttons

  • Tbh (I’m being a party pooper) I’ve never seen it referred to as anything other than press any key specifically for this reason haha.

  • There’s ways of getting YouTube’s content without going to YouTube too no?