tl;dr - Late Night was killed by the Internet. This has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with the increasing irrelevance of television.
Everyone keeps suggesting this is because of Trump but you're ignoring what has been happening to both the Late Show and Late Night in general for years. The entire format is dying. Most people don't watch the show live anymore, they do it on YouTube. Financially that's not viable for the studios. The cost they put into it doesn't equal out over the amount they can get back from YouTube. It doesn't make financial sense for them to keep making the show when no one is watching it on its primary method. They could try to pivot the entire show to YouTube but that also would be kinda hard to justify the cost.
Television is dying. Jon Stewart has come out saying that Paramount is 'risking Late Night' but... it isn't Paramount. It's people. No one watches it anymore. Who wants to watch constant ads
Now if you want to take Politics into account, it shows how Late Night is on life support even worse. First off, the entire market is saturated. You've got too many Late Night hosts to choose from, all of them in essentially the time slot or close to it. All of them then talk about the exact same thing. The only thing you're watching one show over the other for is the host or the guests that episode. Then there's the focus on American politics which makes sense because it's an American show but it alienates people outside the country from watching it on YouTube. And due to it having a heavy focus on American politics, like a lot does now a days, a lot of people are exhausted and don't want to tune in. They want an escape not another reminder.
Seth Meyers is probably the only host who could easily survive this. Fallon and Kimmel have way too much money dumped into their shows. Meyers runs everything on a shoestring and has a hard focus on politics, not splitting his attention. He focuses the majority of his non-Guest screentime on politics with stuff like A Closer Look as well so his show doesn't feel quite as pulled in two directions. The guest conversations are also super relaxed and casual, seeming to focus more on smaller celebrities than having constant big ones.
Love Colbert but I haven't seen his show since December. Partially because of what I listed above, partially because he really leaned into the "Oh this is such a horrible tragedy and we must feel for the family of Brian and how horrible of a person Luigi is" garbage. Considering Colbert has never shyed away from telling off the CBS bosses, that was his own personal decision.
Then there's the fact that I'm a Canadian. Hearing some of the shit that both him and other hosts had to say during these constant threats to my nations sovereignty was genuinely enraging. Kimmel tried to do a PuckOff thing where "Angry canadians message us videos for us to laugh at!" which, as far as I'm aware, went NO WHERE because every Canadian just got furious at him. Trump wants to use us for his own purposes and Kimmel went "Lets do the same thing!"
Edit: Downvote me all you want. This isn't some grand plan to try and silence Colbert. The only people who listen to him are left leaning to begin with. He's not reaching anyone new or changing minds. He's not being the single educating point. Him being cancelled on its own might have a point but considering every late night show has been talking about the death of Late Night for years? This is a reach. Enjoy your bizarre conspiratorial nonsense. I'll go shave with Occam.
Not too dissimilar here. Roommate has learned to avoid me at all costs until my tone of voice doesn't sound like a serial killer. I thought a cpap machine would help with that part of my sleep habits too. It did not.
Nah dude. You have literally nothing to apologize for. It's all on me for not thinking first and not even waking up first before commenting. I can be bitchy as hell before all the gears are grinding properly and I definitely didn't hold the leash on that one.
And I'm sorry that I wasn't clear. At first I missed the emoticon before catching it after. I should have been more clear my frustration was at the concept you were also poking fun at, not at you yourself. I was just waking up and the frustration I have for that line of thinking took full force there, the jokey lines in my head just didn't materialize.
I'm just supremely tired of seeing the people who actually do it, full throated. Doesn't even matter if it's dnd, just stuff in general. Like it seems to be harder and harder to find a conversation about the alternative of something that isn't just "This sucks so mine is better."
Sorry. I need to actually wake up before getting on lemmy, not looking at it from the toilet first thing. That's on me
I know I straight up refuse to play pathfinder because until this thread I've never seen anyone ever recommend Pathfinder without actively shitting on dnd. If I did then maybe I'd have tried it some point in the past few years. Taken up the many offers to play in a pathfinder game. But I hard refuse everytime. If they just said how pathfinder does stuff better, that'd be fine. But it always devolves into what dnd does worse and the endless nitpicking and complaints. No longer is pathfinder the focus. The focus becomes bitching about everyone under the sun that dnd does to the point pathfinder doesn't even get mentioned anymore. It's not what it does better. Every convo I've seen isn't about how good pathfinder is but how bad dnd is and that level of negativity being focused on constantly just to recommend you play their game instead has always made my skin crawl. Should stand on its merits, not its competitions failures. If you can't do that then I'm not sure what the point of it is other than "HAHA DND GET FUCKED"
All you've done is permanently write off any opinion you have on a replacement. It's insanely arrogant to push your own opinion as fact but even more so when the thing you're shitting on is something people actively enjoy and then expecting anyone will pay attention to a thing you say.
They fully work together. You can see piefed posts on lemmy and vice versa! From my understanding anyway. Just go to lemmy.world/c/support@piefed.world or something and you should be able to see posts with no issue.
tl;dr - Late Night was killed by the Internet. This has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with the increasing irrelevance of television.
Everyone keeps suggesting this is because of Trump but you're ignoring what has been happening to both the Late Show and Late Night in general for years. The entire format is dying. Most people don't watch the show live anymore, they do it on YouTube. Financially that's not viable for the studios. The cost they put into it doesn't equal out over the amount they can get back from YouTube. It doesn't make financial sense for them to keep making the show when no one is watching it on its primary method. They could try to pivot the entire show to YouTube but that also would be kinda hard to justify the cost.
Television is dying. Jon Stewart has come out saying that Paramount is 'risking Late Night' but... it isn't Paramount. It's people. No one watches it anymore. Who wants to watch constant ads
Now if you want to take Politics into account, it shows how Late Night is on life support even worse. First off, the entire market is saturated. You've got too many Late Night hosts to choose from, all of them in essentially the time slot or close to it. All of them then talk about the exact same thing. The only thing you're watching one show over the other for is the host or the guests that episode. Then there's the focus on American politics which makes sense because it's an American show but it alienates people outside the country from watching it on YouTube. And due to it having a heavy focus on American politics, like a lot does now a days, a lot of people are exhausted and don't want to tune in. They want an escape not another reminder.
Seth Meyers is probably the only host who could easily survive this. Fallon and Kimmel have way too much money dumped into their shows. Meyers runs everything on a shoestring and has a hard focus on politics, not splitting his attention. He focuses the majority of his non-Guest screentime on politics with stuff like A Closer Look as well so his show doesn't feel quite as pulled in two directions. The guest conversations are also super relaxed and casual, seeming to focus more on smaller celebrities than having constant big ones.
Love Colbert but I haven't seen his show since December. Partially because of what I listed above, partially because he really leaned into the "Oh this is such a horrible tragedy and we must feel for the family of Brian and how horrible of a person Luigi is" garbage. Considering Colbert has never shyed away from telling off the CBS bosses, that was his own personal decision.
Then there's the fact that I'm a Canadian. Hearing some of the shit that both him and other hosts had to say during these constant threats to my nations sovereignty was genuinely enraging. Kimmel tried to do a PuckOff thing where "Angry canadians message us videos for us to laugh at!" which, as far as I'm aware, went NO WHERE because every Canadian just got furious at him. Trump wants to use us for his own purposes and Kimmel went "Lets do the same thing!"
Edit: Downvote me all you want. This isn't some grand plan to try and silence Colbert. The only people who listen to him are left leaning to begin with. He's not reaching anyone new or changing minds. He's not being the single educating point. Him being cancelled on its own might have a point but considering every late night show has been talking about the death of Late Night for years? This is a reach. Enjoy your bizarre conspiratorial nonsense. I'll go shave with Occam.