spiderplant @ spiderplant @lemm.ee

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People don't want windows either, they just use it because it came preinstalled.

Yes there are people who will never install any alternative OS for themselves but there are plenty of people who would if they knew about other viable options.

I'm willing to bet most Linux users used to be windows users at some point. So its not futile to evangelise.

Also pick a noob distribution/flavour such as pop_os and the installation is no different than installing windows. Download your browser, steam and office tools and just use it.

How does Microsoft's boot taste?

USSR collapsed, modern Russia never really had any claim to be communist. They are probably on par or at least comparable with USA for imperialism.

China has not abandoned communism, and if you think China is anywhere close to being as capatilistic as USA you are delusional. China is also nowhere near as imperialist. Look at them forgiving IMF loans in Africa, this is a complete counter to the neocolonial tactics of the developed world.

I meant that I'm European

Might just be a European pet peeve 🤷

Any good leftist socialist comms you've found on Lemmy? I'm just following anarchism @hexbear.net and whatever floats my way on All from hexbear and lemmygrad

Again my point is Anglo is not the right word, go with European racism or then if you don't want to call out skin colour.

Any mention I find of Angloshere online doesn't include Europe and some mentions are even calling out the difference between anglosphere and Europe.

I'm not the only one who was confused by your use of the word in this context.

Again we agree but for teminology. Anglo racism is a term I can't find online and again IMO should only be used on England and its colonies.

Take France for example should it and its colonies not use the term Franco racism.

Just say white racists or European racists or bigots as well works.

Again my original point was that Ukrainian racism towards Indian students in the country during the current war with Russia should not be reduced down to Anglo racism. This reduction is neither in your words, generating meaningful conversation or is a meaningful critique of the problem and IMO is wrong(though this is more a disagreement over words and I think we mostly agree).

All that geopolitics doesn't make the people Anglo though.

Why the fuck are conflating damage done to being most racist. Whites may or may not be the most racist as a whole but because they've had a lot of global power the last 400 years we can see the impact of it more than any other group.

I really don't care who is most racist on averagee because I have an understanding that racism is everywhere in the world and should be fought against everywhere.

Again you are showing you have a really simplified black and white view of the world.

I'm anti NATO, I understand how it works.

My original gripe is with your use of Anglo, Ukraine is not part of NATO, had much more influence and history with Russia than the US/UK, speaks Ukrainian and are ethnically Ukrainian.

You don't have to be Anglo to be racist. Europe, EU and NATO are all more complex that just saying anglosphere and it makes you look silly to reduce it down to white man bad.

I think you are conflating different ideas here.

Anglosphere is countries that have a majority of native English speakers due to cultural connection to England.

You think Poland or Ukraine are English?

Yeah Ithinks we fundamentally disagree with what hexbear is. I believe it to be a broad left instance, and yes that include tankies. I do not believe tankies make up even close to the majority of hexbear. I also believe that hexbear is the left on Lemmy and to cut ourselves off from them alienates all the leftists(in the anticapitalist meaning) on this instance.

I consider myself an anarchist so i disagree with tankies but I also disagree with equating tankies with fashists. It's a false equivalence that ignores their ideological differences.

At least own it dude

You are an outsider to this instance and the info you chose to share clearly tries to paint hexbears in a bad light. You gave no counter to that narrative such as a screen shot of good discussion that is happening in this post.

I've believe you should be able to post on our instance and will not call to defederate from your instance because I disagree with you. I also don't expect everyone to post balanced arguments because I don't more often than not. I will however call people out for hypocrisy.

The narrative is never as black and white as either US or Russian sources would have you believe.

The Ukraine is publicly against any peace talks and the US arms industry is making bank off the war so the US puts very little pressure on the Ukraine to sue for peace.

Russia claims that the US blocked early peace talks. Not sure if Russia would have gone to them in good faith but I guess we'll never know.

Any articles dehumanising Russians such as calling them orcs(this was everywhere) helps justify the continuation of the war. Any articles not calling for an immediate end to the war on humanitarian grounds should be considered propaganda for either side.

I'd argue MSM is not balanced either in the opposite direction and shits on Russia enough that bexbears don't need to join in. Countering the current narrative on anti war grounds or being anti US/NATO can be easily misunderstood as being pro Russia.

Obviously I'm not saying pro Russia accounts don't exist on hexbear but I don't think its as big a thing as you think.

On the trans thing, yeah it would be nice if they could exist everywhere without issues but I've seen plenty of transphobia coming from different instances including our own. Having a mod team that understands their struggle and protects them is worth a lot.

The non ideological crown doesn't exist. Being middle of the road centrist is ideological. Political apathy and voter abstention is ideological. I don't want to create an echo chamber here by banning leftist spaces and allow liberal and right wing views to go unchallenged.

You coming to this instance and trying to influence our opinion is no different than what you are complaining about.

Everyone has their biases and agendas when writing posts or comments and to be expected to be protected from views that don't match you own is not really compatible with the federated model.

50% of their mod team is trans and they are one of the few instances with pronouns built in to it. They have a good argument that of the biggest instances they are the most trans friendly. Can't speak for smaller instances or individual communities though.

I've mostly seen anti war takes from them which IMO is much better than all the pro war news and views in the lib instances. Most leftists are anti Russia since its a capitilaist, imerialist, oligarchal shit hole, but they also are anti US and NATO for similar reasons.

If I wanted to be in a echo chamber I wouldn't be on Lemmy

(edit) downviting if you disagree is a terrible reddit holdover, be more like hexbearians and start a discussion

Bit weird you commenting on this post and accusing others of brigading.

Brigading doesn't exist on Lemmy unless there is a centralised effort to harass a community or individual.

• viewing a post in your feed from a different instance is not brigading
• commenting on a post from another instance is not brigading
• linking to a post from another instances is not brigading

As you found this post in your feed so to will others. To expect one of the biggest instances to not contribute more is silly especially when they have a culture of commenting over votes.

Also don't conflate hexbears as a whole with fashists and Tankies, hexbear is a broad left instance and that includes including anarchists, libertarians, socialists, and communists.

On the propaganda point, countering the lack of honest reporting and information on a lot of topics that benefits those in power and the status-quo is perfectly fine. A lot of MSM can be considered pro-capatilist propaganda.