spaduf @ spaduf @lemmy.blahaj.zone

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almost stopped using lemmy altogether

I definitely empathize with this

Being harassed and called a lib for criticizing their dogpiling doesn't feel like unity to me.

Because I have moderated communities that live and die by the quality of their discussion and I understand that once you slip too far, you will not come back. Rabid circlejerky instances that promote dogpiling do not facilitate discussion and as a whole are bad for the health of the threadiverse. If people can't have a reasonable discussion here they will simply leave. That does not mean that I think hexbear should not exist, but they should probably be contained to their own corner of the broader threadiverse.

Them not jiving with the broader threadiverse is absolutely reason to defederate. They should probably be in their own network of leftist shitposting and trolling instances. Places with similar tone and customs around dogpiling.

And regarding “most instances do not have these sorts of problems” — I don’t think it’s good to treat the majority experience as the universal experience.

Don't get me wrong hexbear is absolutely anomalous. I do not think that is an argument in favor of federating with them.

The comments I consider deflection:

• Asking for an update to the UI to clarify when a post is federated and what that means for user behavior (Full text is: Okay, can we get like, posts from other sites to have red backgrounds with caution tape all over so we don't forget? [mischevious emoji])
• Saying that Lemmy needs to allow local-only communities (true but not really the problem)
• “[…] I still think that federating with so many communities at all the same time was a bad idea […] I hope we take a more measured approach moving forward.” (most instances do not have these sorts of problems)

Ultimately the tone of the instance and its infectious nature on the fediverse are the issue. Particularly as it does not seem that the admins/mods truly have the ability to reign in their users.

Primarily deflection and shitposting. I see exactly ONE comment in praise of the new rules.

I edited my post to mention this. I think it's notable that the current top comment over there is:

Every instance that has talked shit and got dogpiled should be thanking us for breathing some life into their dead and boring ass websites.

https://hexbear.net/post/352119

Top comment on this post is

Every instance that has talked shit and got dogpiled should be thanking us for breathing some life into their dead and boring ass websites.

https://hexbear.net/comment/3744380

overly concerned with civility or respectability

I for one do not mind admins that are concerned with civility or respectability. Forums should be about talking to people and I will always prefer to talk to people with civility and respect.

I wish there were a way to lock threads to the local instance.

Might be worth putting this feature in an automod bot in the long term.

Ada has very poorly handled the response to her “people of NATO” statement in a way that leaves a very bad taste in my mouth regarding the administration of Blåhaj Lemmy. I have noticed that a comment left by a Hexbear user saying “death to Nazis and transphobes” is gone now as well, which if this was an act of a Blåhaj Lemmy administrator, further reflects poorly on Blåhaj Lemmy’s administration.

I really do not think it's fair to go after Ada about this. I think this is such a weird hill to die on.

Lol try that on the hexbear folks

Or rather vibes based social media participation? They're explicitly trying not to make it political

It’s a thread about us, so . . .

It's actually a community about us, so...

My valiant neoliberal argument. Their insidious tankie rhetoric.

I am a leftist.

You can see the instance of the poster, can’t you? And it’s not like hexbear people are able to downvote posts, so our vote is (while still something) relatively weaker.

We can't downvote either, but a quick sampling shows over 3x as many hexbear users commenting as blahaj, so...

Does anybody know if this is a feature of a decimal system?

This thread is a pretty good example.

I think the fact that they’re more active in this thread than the blahaj folks is fairly emblematic of the problem. They can't seem to help themselves with the brigading and they do seem to be drowning out local opinion with tankie rhetoric and spam.

EDIT: Just pointing out that if this were a blahaj exclusive thread you would get a very different sense of where popular opinion actually stands.

EDIT 2: I was initially pretty excited about federating with hexbear but I think after seeing the effect it has on the overall tone of discussion I'm pretty disappointed.

Not having downvotes does not, by any means, mean you need to post your disagreement. Our instance also does not have downvotes. You ARE drowning out exactly the sort of discussion this community is for. I can guarantee what you would like to say has already been posted and upvoting those posts and moving on IS the appropriate way to handle this issue in a meta community for an instance you are not a part of.

Not a great look here overall. Was definitely hoping they would take a little bit more accountability. The solution seems simple. Spend less money on egregiously expensive equipment and spend more money on making sure things are accurate before they go out the door.