spaduf @ spaduf @lemmy.blahaj.zone

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All good. If I had any artistic talent myself I would have put something else together but alas. If anybody's got something cute and free hit me up!

As an example. This is the sort of post I'm talking about: https://tech.lgbt/@spaduf/110941439731236455

@bookstodon Not sure if this is anybody's cup of tea but there's a new Lemmy instance dedicated to books and writing over at: https://literature.cafe

The best part is you can participate from your existing fediverse account. Communities on Lemmy can be followed like users and have similar functionality to a.gup.pe groups!

Try following @fiction as an example but remember that federation doesn't backfill.

More communities can be found here: https://literature.cafe/communities

Already sitting at about 8 boosts and several favorites from some folks with a fairly large follower count. That means potentially thousands of eyes. I went ahead and put together a dedicated user as I think that may be more appropriate than spam posting Lemmy communities/instances on my personal account. Not sure when I'll have time to flesh it out and make it active but I've already got a list of communities/instances and what groups I think would be interested in them. Find it here:
https://mastodon.social/@lemmy_for_mastodon

That's why I'm specifically suggesting we try to get them on the specialized instances. Where culture and moderation policies are least similar from Reddit. Somebody else pointed this out in the other thread and I do absolutely think if we don't point them to a specialized instances then beehaw is the place to go.

What does that mean for those of us who never got into IRC?

I'm not sure there's really anything wrong with what's going on now but it does seem that new users from Reddit in particular have all but dried up. Long term this will definitely be a problem. Mastodon provides a userbase in the low millions to potentially tap into and they already understand federation. Strikes me as low hanging fruit that has a lot more value than the average reddit user.

Ope there goes my firefish instance. Sad days.

One big issue with the existing cross-posting feature is that it does not work AT ALL with text based posts, just links.

The Lemmy devs honestly probably need a significant change in priorities or even a fork. They also seem to be ignoring relatively simple performance fixes that would have huge effects on the cost of instance hosting. If you think about it 60k users really shouldn't cost that much to host. See @RoundSparrow's thread about it here: https://lemmy.ml/comment/2971578

Some of this may also have to do with the user creation exploit that popped up a while back.

I don't think the folks that have those sorts of qualms are necessarily the people to go after. I think the prime targets should be field experts. They were essential in establishing Reddit's utility in the early days and there seem to be a fairly significant number of them over on Mastodon in search of deeper conversation.

Some easily shared graphics would still be super useful.

They just want a social network like reddit

Reddit users by and large are not content creators, particularly not in the way that Mastodon users are. I'm suggesting each Mastodon user recruited would be worth way more than each reddit user recruited. Reddit users are simply not worth the effort and have significantly less to add to the culture/conversation

empty communities, and no content

This is the most important part. But bootstrapping communities is a tough problem. I'm suggesting it's significantly easier to advertise on Mastodon than it is on Reddit. At this point it's hard to imagine advertising on Reddit being met with any sort of positive response at all.

Are you going to host them?

They're already there. They are currently struggling with growth. This seems to primarily be an issue of getting the word out.

But more importantly, what are you going to draw them here with? Why would they bother? What’s the sales pitch? What do they gain?

They gain group-like functionality and deeper, more focused discussion. These are often requested features of Mastodon that Lemmy can provide without any additional features on the development side.

I think this may not have enough total posts to impact a feed like it needs to. Would definitely be a useful feature tho

I really think medium broad-topic instances are the way to go. Similar in scope to lemmy.film or lemdro.id

See this thread: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/2196821

What's the alternative? It honestly seems like a worthwhile way to do it for me. I really think there's only value in following niche communities from Mastodon. Discourse like that found on politics and news is pretty plentiful (and often higher quality) on Mastodon as is, but the gardening communities make up an important part of my Mastodon feed.

My thesis is basically that new users are not coming from Reddit anymore, but Mastodon users are both searching for group-like features and are likely to be positive influences over here. I'm saying they can be particularly useful in bootstrapping specialized instances (lemmy.film, literature.cafe, etc) and establishing a culture that differs from the wider threadiverse with fairly minimal advertising over on Mastodon. For the most part, if you are not already a Mastodon user or a community/instance mod you do not need to worry about this.

Do you think there would be similar frustration points in the Mastodon to Lemmy process? Obviously, I am ok with both so this may be a major blindspot of mine, but I suspect that may be a slightly easier transition.

Also those aren't weird names for tags they are more like existing communities. Because Mastodon does not have native groups there are several implementations like https://a.gup.pe to fill the gap. Following tags like that is a similar way to go about it. They are distinct from #books or #horror. #monsterdon in particular is a weekly monster movie watch party. The point is that these are active communities with a lot of crossover potential.

I'm saying you wouldn't see racist bullshit and spam in !fediverse@whatever.

I think this has interesting but overall very positive implications for the local feed.