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But then Republicans couldn't play out their favorite fantasy of authoritarian strong man.

Stop threatening it. Anyone else would already be behind bars right now. Follow through.

Wow, did you ever miss the point. The paradox of tolerance is effectively pointing out that tolerance isn't a suicide pact. When someone advocates for violence, the tolerant response is not "I'm sorry you feel that way. Have a Snickers bar." The only appropriate response is "you need to come with these uniformed people to a place where you can be segregated until you get rehabilitated." And if they won't go without violence, then violence is the only response to keep them in check.

That's why we talk about punching Nazis.

In other words, you've never heard of the paradox of tolerance. It's fascinating stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

That's a risk, yes. But some of them have kept their seats because they crossed the aisle and the Democrats in their districts didn't work that hard to unseat them. So no, it's not a foregone conclusion. I'll concede it's becoming more common, but we don't need a lot of Republicans to defy their leadership. Just a handful.

That thing you accuse him of, but he didn't do?

Back under your bridge, now. We're done here.

Go back to your cave bridge.

Fixed that for you.

Anyone who has even a passing familiarity with Krugman knows he's never going to describe the Democrats as anything like "pristine." But pretending "both sides are the same" is insanely dishonest.

You have utterly failed to offer anything substantial to the conversation. but we appreciate your participation nevertheless.

I see that enlightened centrism has once again reared its ugly head.

The Iraq war, intelligence about Guantanamo, the whole thing with PRISM and Snowden, and the entire Trump administration has made the US look increasingly unstable internationally.

It looks that way because that's what we've become. The question is how much damage are we going to do to ourselves and the rest of the world as we scrabble to keep the influence that we're losing.

Agreed, but that's our responsibility. House Democrats can't do anything about that until we get out the votes.

You can assume all you want. That remains your problem, not mine. My statement stands.

They don't reach out to the MAGAts. They reach out to the ones voting against Gym and Scalise. The ones like McCarthy who are willing to cut a deal with Democrats in order to do their jobs instead of simply trolling the nation in the name of their Anointed One/God Emperor.

Not in districts where Republicans win by narrow margins. Only in districts that are reliably red. Not every Republican seat is perfectly safe.

Please drop out, Jordan. You don't belong anywhere near the levers of power.

You're correct. Democrats are not responsible for cleaning up this mess. But unlike Republicans, Democrats have a vested interest in a functioning government and serving the people. That's not happening while Republicans are milling about trying to grab power for themselves. Democrats can use their infighting against them to force some concessions that would restore the House to some semblance of functionality and resume the business of government.

The thing is, there are still a handful of Republicans willing to work with Democrats, and with the 214 votes the Democrats can offer, it only needs three more Republicans to cross the aisle in a power-sharing agreement. So it's not that far-fetched. It's a question of which Republicans will find the courage to defy the extremists in their party.

At no point have I framed all Republicans as Nazis. But to deny that Nazis have embraced the Republican party and the party has no problem with them in leadership roles is to deny reality.