Our dancers have infinite curves
sp3ctr4l @ sp3ctr4l @lemmy.dbzer0.com Posts 9Comments 1,156Joined 3 mo. ago
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Yeah a lot of online ones were and still are BS, my parents put me through an actual, go to a place, sit and do a test for multiple hours kind of thing.
I am not sure that they actually needed to, but the explanation they gave me was that it was needed to get into the 'gifted' program in Elementary School...
Always stood out as weird to me, most of the other kids in it never did a whole ass IQ test, they just had really good grades and their parents asked the school nicely... ... ???
EDIT: Also uh, IQs are supposed to be noralized at 100... so... by standard deviations...
If I really am 135, then I'm in roughly the top 2% of the population.
If your friend is really above 145... they'd be in roughly the top tenth of a percent of all humans.
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4749462/
Here is a more recent meta-analysis from 2015 that concludes that the genetic additive effect on total outcomes is significant and distinct from the SES...
But only in the US.
In Europe, Australia, elsewhere, the genetic additive effect is statistically insignificant.
(IE, SES is the dominant factor)
This meta-analysis of published and unpublished data provided clear answers to our three questions.
First, studies from the United States supported a moderately sized Gene × SES interaction on intelligence and academic achievement (a′ = .074; Fig. 1).
Second, in studies conducted outside the United States (in Western Europe and Australia), the best estimate for Gene × SES magnitude was very slightly negative and not significantly different from zero.
Third, the difference in the estimated magnitude of the Gene × SES effect between the U.S. and the non-U.S. studies was itself significant.
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Fig 1, Variance vs SES, in the US
(my own commentary: the wealthier you are in the US, the more of a complete crapshoot it is whether or not you are smart or stupid... because IQ doesn't matter for wealthy people.)
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...the cross-national difference identified does not appear to be an epiphenomenon of cross-national differences in the age ranges examined or the particular intelligence or achievement outcomes measured.
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Interestingly, as can be seen by comparing Figures 2 and S2, these Gene × Age trends closely parallel the U.S. Gene × SES effect. Genes account for considerably more variation in intelligence both at higher ages and in higher U.S. socioeconomic contexts.
Indeed, both phenomena may reflect a process of increased and accumulated effects of gene-environment transactions with the increased opportunity that comes with both social class and age (Tucker-Drob et al., 2013; Turkheimer & Horn, 2014).
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Without conducting my own entire study...
My read on this is that the genetic component is much more significant in the US than in other places...
... because the US is significantly more economically stratified, nepotistic, and has a broken education system where rich idiots can get all the education they want, and skate by, but you basically have to be a diligent and lucky genius to escape poverty and the shit-tier education it has bestowed you with.
The noted tendency of age to also be correlated with SES and genetics in the US, is again, imo, explained by our vastly broken healthcare system just literally killing you if you are either poor, or stupid.
If I am not mistaken, we are uh, still trending downward on overall life expectancy, as compared to most other developed countries in this study sample set where life expectancy either was not badly affected by COVID, or was but has since rebounded.
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But uh yeah, going back to this more recent study... looks like genes have a less meaningful impact than your SES in civilized areas of the world.
Here in the US, we only have downward class mobility, unless you are very, very clever, and continuously lucky, continuously reinvesting those gains from your cleverness into social and financial capital without making any 'bad investments', or ever having any sudden medical or financial disaster happen to you.
Kakistocracy: Rule by the least fit to govern, the worst qualified, the most unscrupulous.
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Anyway, not to sound like I am directing my venom here at you, I do very much appreciate you bringing an actual comprehensive meta analysis and giving a very good and well reasoned read on it, with caveats. =D
Different numbers of holes though, gotta take homeomorphism into account.
Are you just gonna sit there like an undergrad and clumsily perform a naive mapping of my topological space, or are you gonna use your brain a bit, and exhaustively define a continuous homeomorphic equation to radically transform me into whatever shape you want?
If you can make the key, you can unlock me, and then I can map to whatever you want me to be >:D
Lol, I'm a software developer that started by writing legacy windows software, I know exactly how much (little) has changed.
Oh, so this whole situation is to a significant degree, your fault.
=P
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I love the combo of raspberry and chocolate.
And you can also make the sex jokes about uh, shall we say, using the rear entrance a bit too vigorously.
Hell, I'll try to remember to throw in a link to your comm the next time I go-a Bible thumpin' about TF|2, lol.
Yeah but I'm pretty sure the relative wealth/affluence of the neighborhood you grew up in is significantly more strongly correlated with overall life outcomes, and is also cross correlated with IQ itself, broadly, over many societies and locales.
Which would indicate that focusing on 'IQ' is a red herring, and to a significant degree becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy... not to mention gives rise to an ultimately false notion of a meritocratic society, when the reality is much, much closer to 'its who you know, not what you know', a nepotistic society.
Yeah, haha, the most useful predictive metric for how a person will generally turn out in life, socioeconomically, that I am aware of... is still the zipcode you grew up in.
For any non USAsians, thats the post code, the fairly granular level 'what town/city/neighborhood did you grow up in'.
Whole lotta Nurture against the innate Nature of your genes or whatever.
My view would be that the abilility to memorize and retain a number of facts is a kind of intelligence, to me the most obvious example would be in say, reading comprehension: If you read a chapter of a fiction novel, but then cannot recall new characters, important actions, etc, thats a problem...
But at the same time, yes, EQ, empathy, emotional intelligence does seem to be another important, multidimensional component to human cognitive abilities... but it is unclear to me how one could really make some kind of metric to truly measure the say, relative capacity for empathy.
Further, if your definition is closer to 'emotional intelligence'... well again, speaking as an autist, this is something that gets wildly misunderstood and mis-assessed by neurotypicals just all the time, in my experience.
I have a great deal of capacity for empathy, I have consistently demonstrated this via action and words throughout my life... but most of the time, neurotypicals will conclude the exact opposite about me, because of a single instance where my tone or expressions or verbiage were slightly 'off' from what they evidently wanted, and then they'll say I was disingenuous, cruel, callous, etc... despite the two of us having had a years long history of me being emotionally available for them, supoortive of them.
If you know of an existing, or have a proposal for some kind of EQ metric/test, I'd be interested in seeing it, ... and again, I agree that in concept, EQ is an important aspect of human cognition... but I am skeptical that any kind of useful metric or test for it could exist, beyond doing like a full psych eval of someone over the course of months.
The whole concept of a metric like this is that it would be objective, intercomparable... and presumably, indicate something that is to at least a significant degree, relatively fixed throughout time.
The nature of emotion seems to me to be diametrically opposed to both of these... people can often be quite emotionally stable as a baseline, but then act erratic after or during a period of significant stress or trauma... or joy and pampering... and many people and cultures have different baselines for what they even view as something like 'emotionally welcoming/understanding.'
Nope, we're all going to hell, on Earth.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=12Ch-NIYxvQ
Oops, turns out the SMOC, the Antarctic counterpart to the AMOC... yeah looks like it broke and flipped about a decade ago.
So, that means the global thermohaline circulation system is in fact currently collapsing, heat transfer flows in the worlds oceans are going to do increasingly unpredictable wild shit, which will cause increasingly unpredictable large scale weather patterns...
Oh! And because this fucks up the salinity and nutrient concentrations of uh, ocean water basically everywhere...
I guess the Dolphins will soon be boarding their ships along to 'So long and thanks for all the fish!'.
So... they found a neolithic site that was re used over the course of millennia... radiocarbon analysis has yet to take place but the stratigraphy suggests between 2200 BCE and 10,000 BCE for the oldest parts of it...
They found evidence of primitive metal working, archery, and a ceremonial burn pit / funeral pyre for sending off the deceased... and the site is essentially some concentric circles of raised earthen mounds, and ditches.
... I mean yes this is a very cool discovery, but does this not just seem to be an early, small, sort of proto settlement for hunter gatherers who lived in an area rich enough in game that... they didn't actually have to be so nomadic?
Its got primitive ceramics (not that surprising given the abundance of clay at/near the site) suggesting longer term habitation... they say they believe there was fencing as well.
Could be a sort of set aside 'sacred place' or could be that, but within or near a larger encampment made of much more temporary structures, tents, teepees, lean-tos, etc?
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Gobekli Tepe is dated to ~6,000 BCE.
And features actual stone monuments, primitive etched symbols, possibly a proto-language.
How is something arguably less advanced in many ways, from approximately the same time period 'practically impossible'?
Yeah, I... ok, I haven't read the entire actual post, but uh...
Yes, Steam is not perfect, but... just run it on linux.
Via Proton.
A project massively spearheaded by Valve, that functionally has resulted in, among other things, extremely significantly improved game support on older hardware.
Also....with... a great many older Steam games... at least on linux, sometimes even on windows... you can just download the actual game files, and then move them out of the Steam directory, and ... back them up, run them outside of Steam.
Its usually much, much trickier to do this on Windows, but still.
Yes, this doesn't work if its reliant on hooking into Steam for whatever various services... but like... you can do this, I've done it many times for fucking around with more intensive attempts at modding a game.
And you of course can setup Proton without using Steam... at all.
I am honestly baffled that Kaldaien, who has been modding PC games for quite a while... seemingly doesn't know or realize this.
I guess they just don't have much linux experience?
... fucking MSFT doesn't even support Win98, XP, or 7 or 8.1, and 10 is basically on its last legs.
How can Steam be reasonably expected to work on OSs that aren't even supported by their own publishers?
Ok, I've now read his post.
Like don't get me wrong, I super understand the frustration of being a modder and running into unending stupid edge cases where you need something to work that just does not have an actual 'responsible party', because it lies at the convergence of systems that 2 or 3 or more entities built to work between them, at that point in time... but that just is the nature of this beast.
A whole lot of this screed seems to be frustration with stuff like that, and... weirdly being angry that deleting your steam profile results in your posts being deleted?
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I think Kaldaien needs a big fuzzy hug from a penguin.
Could be a rave.
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Could be raspberry.
Disney happened, that's what.
[taps microphone]
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Ahem.
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Yaccitey-Yacc, Don't Talk Back.
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[leaves stage]
Generally, biologically speaking:
Men have a urethra and an anus.
Women have a urethra, and anus, and a vagina.
Presumably, discounting mutations, birth defects, serious injuries, etc, most people have the same number of uh... head/face holes.
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Allowing for rarer cases:
Also... intersex people exist... there have been at least a few recorded instances of duplicate and/or forking dongs...
And I guess we could also consider varying kinds of conjoined twins.
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Also also, we could argue about whether milk producing mammaries constitute a topological 'hole'.