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Justice isnt served until Netenyahu and biden are being frog marched in chains and striped pajamas at the hague.

Agreed. I dont think Netenyahu gives a crap about anything or anyone in America except insomuch as it furthers Israeli land grabbing and murder interests.

Israelis overwhelmingly approve of trump. "58% of Israelis would vote for Donald Trump, while just 25% would vote for Vice President Kamala Harris." from https://mondoweiss.net/2024/09/the-shift-nearly-60-of-israelis-say-theyd-vote-for-trump/

So yes, they will cheerfully shank Harris with an October surprise if they can.

a "leak" of something that they've been saying they are going to do for weeks.

heck of a job, NY times. Way to catch those startling leaks.

take heart, Biden says he is very concerned. Harris too. Any day now he's going to stop the shipments and start poking netenyahu forcefully in the chest, screaming in his face, making threats.

/s. I'm just messing with you.

Israeli murder of civlians is so normalized that its hardly even making the news anymore.

In the process of playing chicken with her to see who blinks first, yes, she might lose some votes. But she was going to lose some votes anyway because of the far right Israeli war, that she could win back that number and more if she alters her position to one that resonates with more Americans around the legends we tell ourselves about who we are. These are votes in key swing states that she could gain.

That loss of votes either way is on her and the cadre of scumbag consultants doing tactical spreadsheets based on issue support, weighing if they can keep that sweet sweet AIPAC money. You are just playing her and netenyahus game and you cant even see it that you have multiple peoples hands up your rear using you as a sock puppet. You allow that because you are utterly terrified, and that part is understandable.

How do you figure he's not on the list?

It was originally supposed to have tried more like 15000, but yes, ultimately a low couple hundred were tried, and then the rest were just dropped. Theres interesting history there, and it functioned more like propoganda than justice.

Few people seem to care. Most dem voters couldnt even bother to vote uncommitted in the dem primary, a completely free and risk free way to try to nudge Biden/Harris to stop taking bribes. They'll happily get online and bloviate how everyone else is a trumper if they dont get in line and vote harris asap, and thats the extent of their backbone. Sad world. The true nature of my countryman turns out to be pretty disappointing. I'd say bring the british back to rule us but they seem no better. Whats left of civilization.. France? Japan maybe? Konichi wa, please come save us from our terrible selves.

Politcal memes mods are deleting comments which complain about Dem support of genocide. The stated reasons are solely: "Thats ridiculous, Harris doesnt support war crimes" and reasoning like that. Its editorial modding to create and amplify their views, same as reddit does. Does this site exist for open comments or to create echo chambers? The UN and ICC have ruled that war crimes are happening and genocide is plausible, but in some places on lemmy thats dismissed out of hand and comments removed.

Mods should exist to limit abuse and enforce rules that keep this place on track, not to delete comments they personally dont agree with. Mods that abuse their power need to be removed.

I think it makes no difference whatsoever, when both are bought off by AIPAC money toward the same ends. But I do think there is only one that can conceivably be pressured to stop doing that, and only our every 4 year vote matters to them. Pushing on Trump is useless. This is your one chance to lift a finger to do the right thing with some pushback and demanding the shipments stop.

I think is she doesnt change her stand on it she has a good chance of losing.

Presidents do care about votes during an election. They dont care about sit ins and student protests. You're asking everyone to abandon any pushback of an active genocide. You are asking them to actively support it in fact. Why not pressure Harris to get her to pledge to stop it instead.

Stanfrod prison experiment proved pretty amply that people will follow orders and adopt other peoples sadism as their own when directed to do so by an authority figure. Nurembourg was largely a propoganda show.

Fascism is a blink away.

its arguably already here. Americans are unwillingly participating in a far right wing genocide which is splintering the entire western world order, the UN, the ICC, American soft power, and the concept of democracy.

idiot, other places without firears have far less, and taking away of guns always lowers the violence. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Kennedy fired his chairman of the Joint Chiefs. For planning to blow up some Florida hotels to get causus beli to attack Cuba. it was called operation northwoods. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

flattening of hierarchies?

Agreed, its time for the power in the US to be held by a triumverate of 3 individuals instead of in blockaded hierarchies. (Thats a lkttle history joke)

the french might seriously consider coming to save us a second time, if only to rub our noses in it for the rest of history. They'd probably make us rename the US to something demeeaning too, like Cretinland,

Biden had a catastrophically low approval rating and was doomed to lose even before the medical stuff came to light. He had far lower numbers than any dem in the past 80 years at that point in the cycle. If you want to pretend "whining" got us Harris instead of Bidens poor choices, thats fine, but the math tells a different story.