soratoyuki @ soratoyuki @lemmy.world

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Imagine living on a planet that's being cooked alive, a random executive in a board room can fire you for no reason, you're one missed paycheck away from being homeless, which itself is increasingly being criminalized, you'll never be able to own a house or pay off the loans society told you you had to take out when you were 18, you're one bad doctor's appointment from bankruptcy, your tax dollars are going to fund a genocide in Gaza, and the only socially acceptable option to contest any of it is voting once every few years.

How can you not actively support destroying the fundamentally illegitimate system that defines America?

We need a maximum age limit for politicians and voters. People that aren't sticking around for dinner don't get to pick the groceries.

Since no one apparently read the article, it's the Democrats doing this.

The Debt Collective named Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), and Rep. Rick Larsen (D-Wash.) as particularly responsible for the language.

Broke: People being opposed to the ongoing genocide in Gaza are going to get Trump elected.

Woke: Biden's uncritical support of an unpopular genocide in Gaza is going to get Trump elected.

Biden could just, you know, stop giving arms to Israel.

America has to be the only "democracy" that shames voters for disagreeing with politicians instead of the reverse.

Conservatives are itching to commit violence against women, minorities, and political opposition.

Leftists recognize that medical debt, unaffordable food and rent, climate change, etc. are already forms of violence we're being subjected to as part of permanent class warfare.

They are not the same.

Of course the sentence is relevant. I'm not sure why I should bother writing a reply to you when you apparently stop reading them after the first word. Have a good day.

I recommend you read the second sentence that you declined to quote.

So the months of coordinated efforts to by activists to disrupt Democratic meetings, harass Democratic politicians, chant genocide Joe, vote uncommitted in primaries, block traffic, support BDS efforts etc. was actually an effective method of protest that had a small but meaningful effect in changing foreign policy?

The methods of protest the state wants us to think are successful and the methods that can actually succeed are usually not the same. Please take note.

Certainly not, but he definitely cares about the 100,000 people that voted uncommitted in Michigan and the littany of polls that show a majority of Democratic and young voters not supporting current US foreign policy.

No. It means enough people screaming genocide Joe loudly enough had a small but tangible impact on American foreign policy.

Generally speaking, they do want to lose. If they actually ran on their universally popular policies, they'd win majorities large enough to where they wouldn't have excuses to not enact their legislative mandate, which is at odds with what their corporate donors want.

I mean, we should definitely do something, but the George Floyd protests failed to make any lasting change.

It's not a coincidence. For instance there's the GILEE program which is literally a Georgia to Israel police exchange/training program.

Rojava is right there.

This would be a much more productive conversation if you didn't just invent things I didn't say to argue with. I've implied no such thing.

I am explicitly using the Democratic primary as a method to express my displeasure with Biden, which you may recognize as the sole reason primaries exist. I'm increasingly confused by how many people seem to not understand that.

Will voting uncommitted or for the crazy crystal healing lady lead to the Democrats having a component and popular general election candidate come November? No, sadly, but that's a criticism of the state of our decayed democracy not giving voters meaningful avenues to enact change in society, not a criticism of the electoral strategies that have to exist within said decayed democracy.

Will voting uncommitted or for the crazy crystal healing lady lead to Biden making meaningful changes in his stances regarding Palestine? Given his change in messaging from the guy that bypassed Congress to sell Israel munitions two months ago to someone that now doing the bare minimum of at least air dropping (nowhere near sufficient) food supplies to Gaza, the answer to that is seemingly a slight yes. Which has the benefit of aligning the presumptive Democratic Presidential nominee with the majority of voters, making him a stronger general candidate.

You know. The whole point of a primary. So, you're welcome?

What do you think the point of a primary is, if not for voters to express there views to their political party?

Trump isn't running in the Democratic primary ffs.

Given that Trump is running in the Republican primary, I'm unsure how this would effect anyone voting uncommitted in a Democratic primary?

I can't believe we've voted for the lesser of two evils for an entire generation, to the point that the lesser evil is a strike breaking, border wall building, senile octogenarian that's bypassing Congress to sell arms to a genocidal ethnostate, and liberals still can't come up with a better alternative.