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  • That's irrelevant. Being influenced by Sanskrit is no more noteworthy than China being influenced by English.

    Southern Brahmins are not Southern people who were influenced by Sanskrit. They are Northern people who live in the South.

    Southern Brahmins have elevated Steppe ancestry and R1a fractions, just like Northern Brahmins.

    To the casual observer this just sounds like "calipers" but the real significance is that these people, regardless of when they got here, have against all numerical odds, managed to keep themselves "genetically pure" for a very long time, and such an act can only be achieved via active caste-based discrimination. If they began arriving at 200 BC like you say, rather than later, that just makes it worse--imagine keeping yourself ethnically separate from the 95% of the population around you for over 2000 years lmao.

    These brahmins drove the sanskritization. This sanskritizing/brahminizing influence was more complete in Maharashtra and Odisha, and was totally complete in the Gangetic Plain.

    Speaking a Dravidian language with Sanskrit influence is very different from being completely culturally captive to a Brahmin elite and all their whims--which is likely where the dysfunction of the Gangetic region comes from.

  • Sure, but just anecdotally speaking, every Indian I've talked to online (so a few dozen) who had takes like the OP tweet ended up being northern. Very often Gangetic, Nepali Bahuns, some Assamese, a few from Uttar Pradesh, a few Bengalis. Not as many Punjabis as you'd think given their obvious ancestry differences.

    a decent number of them have a weird combination of reactionary punching down + sucking up to white nationalists + defeatism

    All of these people were english-fluent enough that I could understand them perfectly, so I'd imagine direct material conditions are not the problem, and that it has more to do with the previous history of the gangetic region and the cultural quirks that materialized from it

  • This is a Gangetic problem, not an Indian problem

    South India and Maharashtra have far less fundamentalism (I'm not trying to be chauvinist here, I've heard this from multiple non-desis who only learned what these provinces were after visiting India)

    There's a strange type of "exclusively punch down + religious fundamentalism" brainworm complex that peaks in Northern India, including Bengal. It resembles the right-wing rhetoric that I see from certain Latinos

  • and senses are real bc they're reproducible

    I see john get cut and he says owie
    I get cut and it also feels like owie

    therefore if john shoots himself and dies I can expect that to do the same thing

    unless you're saying that my very conception of john, my visual image of him, is all solipsistic and derived from my own mental dreamworld, as are everything else in my life. In that case I would say damn I'm heckin smart and got a big brain. I used to think about this when I was little and I would imagine myself sitting on a big rock in space, and I'd wake up and realize that everything (my family friends etc) were all a dream, and the reality was just me, this moonrock I was sitting on, and the black galaxy around me