BarqsHasBite @ someguy3 @lemmy.ca

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He'll just be blindly signing what's in front of him.

Lmao thank you for confirming your mental gymnastics! You don't even make sense. Kinda figured after you saw your mistake with Bill Clinton. I did some edits though. Ciao for real and you don't get to complain when you don't vote.

Bill Clinton is the one that ran against an incumbent. He had to run center. Against Bush senior. Bill Clinton. The one that was actually president. Bill.

Hillary Clinton thank you for bringing that up. She ran on climate war/map room. That and the attacks lost it. But what do you think the window would be if Hillary Clinton won? Easy, it would be further left. You're making my case for me.

And what did the protest no vote do? That's right, fucking handed it to Trump. You're making my case for me

Instead Trump won and guess what happened to the Overton window? It went off the cliff to the right. And it's still there because he won and could win again. You're making this too easy.

Disengaged voters you say. Hey I wonder what they could do. Hmmmmmmmm. Hmmmmm. Hmmmmm. I think they could, wait for it, vote! If you want policy number 475 you have to vote for policy 1 first. That's exactly what happened with GOP, they voted for decades and they finally got roe overturned. You keep making my case.

Besides, swing voters don't just vote according to a rational policy calculus of centrism. A lot of it is vibes or superficial nonsense.

Doesn't fucking matter. They vote. And guess what, that means they get heard. You keep making my case for me.

Agree the Dems aren't going to magically move left like you think they're going to when you don't vote. They will move with the voters. But you don't like this so you try to say it's all donors and whatever else. It's unbelievable. The way you get things is to change is to vote. This is so incredibly easy but you want to make up excuses and do mental gymnastics. Get dem in the whitehouse and majority in Congress for 20 years straight and watch it fucking move. You do that by voting.

Oh I see you're from .ml. it'll just be more excuses and mental gymnastics. Ciao.

As much as I think we should focus on transit and ebikes, vehicles (personal or commercial) are not going away. So they should all be EV.

You literally win from the middle. One switched vote is worth double from the fringes, because you take away from the other party and get one yourself.

And if you run against incumbents, you have to be even more in the middle - think Clinton and Biden. Biden had to run center, although he's acting further left than what he ran on.

Sorry but you're just trying to justify not voting, by pretending that not voting will magically make the party move left. It won't. It's fantasy. Not voting means they will meet in the middle even harder.

You want change? Make the Dems win resoundingly and successively.

It's the Overton window. If the right ideas keep losing, then the left ideas have more say. If the right wing ideas don't win you elections, they slowly fade away. If left wing ideas win you elections, the the whole Overton window goes to which left wing ideas will win.

Like dude you just listed off the entire Overton window that they're appealing to because it won them an election and might win them another election. Like you just did it! Why do those talking points even exist? Because it won and could win again. Shut those out by voting. Tell them resoundingly that there's no chance of winning on those ideas, and then the Overton window can move left.

Your question is complete backwards. They can't move left because there is a real chance of losing. You win elections from the center. If you have a risk of losing that means you stay firmly in the center.

Dude no. They need to win elections which means they can't lose to Republicans. That's it. When they know they can't lose, they will move on to better policies. They aren't going to magically move left when there's a very real chance of losing the election. Sorry to say, you're twisting yourself into knots trying to justify not voting.

The Democrats can't do as much as you want them to when there's a very real chance of losing the election to the Republicans. If you want change, then vote. If you want policy 475, you need to vote for policy 1 first.

Yeah at the point of 3, I don't see the point in having a max.

The right wing has a long history of real repression. Think slavery, segregation, Jim Crow (simply saying it doesn't do it justice), voter suppression, KKK, mob violence, etc. As much as I hate to realize it, they were fundamentally built on violence and hate. It's never left them. Especially the mentality, which is "my way or violence".

This is also why they project the left is violent. Because they are, so they assume everyone else is too. So they try to portray left groups as violent. Same with having an agenda. They have one, so they assume everyone else has one too. It's all projection.

It's not so sudden that anything changes really. People die every day, it doesn't happen all at once.

Oh yeah that was yesterday wasn't it.

FYI: May 9 is Russia's Victory Day, over Nazi Germany.

But most importantly, he save Jack.

Wasn't it popular in the first season?

I agree I only watched it at friends places and it wore thin pretty fast.

Presumably she's old enough to have a phone and order an Uber. I'm guessing the father's taking the phone away (nothing she did).

She had an extension cord that they saw.

Yes, even more than before. C'mon. I'm out.

Incentivizes even more cover-ups then.

Beau had a good take, that incentivizes cover-ups.