silent_water [she/her] @ silent_water @hexbear.net

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hah, I was planning to go back through it in the morning so I have all the dates lined up.

yep, the fact that even brief summaries have to cover things day by day during that period are a testament to that. I have no clue how skullboi covered it in just 2 hours.

fair

my point is that the desire to drop the bomb led them to prolong the war.

stop using chrome

I blocked it. just go to the comm page and click block community.

is it possible? yeah, it's linux, you can do whatever you want. but as a newcomer, I'd pick a distro + DE combo that you can install all at once as switching may not be the most straightforward process. when you want more control so you can set things up exactly the way you like them, there's more DIY distros that make the process easier (because you don't first have to remove the configuration that made the existing DE work the way it's set up to work).

they were already attempting to surrender before that. they just had one single term - that the emperor would be allowed to live. the Americans stalled them, holding out for an unconditional surrender (which they didn't stick to after the bombs were dropped), and when they went to the Soviets after, they were ignored because Stalin wanted to remain on good terms with the US / wanted favorable terms at Malta.

the US refused to accept the terms, which were that the emperor would be allowed to live. they subsequently accepted the same terms after the bombs were dropped. US diplomatic cables suggest that the real reason the bombs were dropped were 1. to test their effectiveness and 2. to send a message to the Soviets.

they also attempted to surrender to the Soviets, desperately, once they realized the US was stalling them. the Soviets ignored their attempts to surrender because they wanted to remain on good terms with the US and the talks at Malta, to broker the new world order post WWII, had yet to happen.

dropping the bombs did not end the conflict sooner. and it certainly didn't bring justice for anyone. the US prevented that from happening by exonerating the people who actually conducted the atrocities.

Japan already knew they had lost and were trying to surrender at that point.

Japan had been trying to surrender for months before the bombs were dropped. the US could have simply accepted the terms and executed the military leaders. instead they dropped the bombs, accepted the terms, and inducted the worst war criminals into the US military.

do you understand the difference between a state and it's military vs the civilians who merely live there? the people who committed those atrocities were inducted into the American military apparatus.

letting the peace process actually be attempted as planned

Japan was already attempting to surrender for months before the bombs were dropped.

Their goal for Japan with the bombs was to pressure Japan into surrendering to them so they could use them as a bulwark against the Soviets.

if that was their goal, they could have accepted the surrender they were offered. imperial command had only one condition -- the survival of the emperor -- which they were granted anyway after the bombs were dropped. the US opted not to accept that surrender so they could use Japan as target practice.

they're gonna do that even if we're polite to them. civility tone policing sucks.

read this

so the same shit that every tech company pulls -- "we care about privacy" while violating it every way imaginable? remember google's "don't be evil"? if it's not FOSS and E2EE, it's not private.

being the idea that ML orthodoxy is the only "true socialism."

hexbear literally bans anyone who posts this unironically. there's a strict rule against sectarianism.