shortwavesurfer @ shortwavesurfer @monero.town

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The metal coin has a private key embedded underneath a hologram. The private key has never touched the internet. And so if you throw it away, that value is lost forever. So the metal coin in and of itself does have value. As long as you can physically see that the hologram has not been peeled away and the private key exposed, which would be a dead giveaway, that it has been swept and is no longer of any value.

This one is a bit old, but... https://medium.com/@MUBC/privacy-coins-debunking-myths-about-illegal-usage-9150c49a31a7

I can't find it at the moment, but I saw a report for 2023 or 2024 that something like 0.4% of all crypto transactions are illicit activity. So that would mean roughly 1.9 million people use it for such activity, which is a far cry from 400 million.

That 1 in 5 to 1 in 4 is the amount of people who have actively used crypto in some form. Everybody almost has heard about it and knows it has value, even if it's to give it to somebody else.

Hey, 1/5 to 1/4 arent terrible odds. Even if they haven't used it, there's a damn good chance they've heard of it. If they've heard of it, then they know it has value.

Well, there aren't many of those around. So if it's recognized, then the person would know to look for a QR code on it. And if it has not been destroyed by peeling the hologram off, then they will know it's good. Seems like bribing a border guard with chickens would be kind of difficult. Just for the noise they would make and the space they would take up. You might be able to pass them an ounce of gold or something. That might be a possibility.

https://monero.town/comment/4613276

Edit: You are right. My bad. It's more like a one in five. Not a one in four.

You do the same. Have a wonderful day.

Really depends on the country. If you are fleeing somewhere like the United States, there's about a one in four chance that it would be recognized. If you're fleeing some other place that has had currency issues in the past, then it's probably quite a bit higher.

While the ones that do exist still exist, and that's not to say that somebody couldn't create other things that were similar. Just as long as the private key is not peeled away, then you know it's actually got the value it says. And you don't need the internet to verify that.

Not yet, the government has their regulatory screws too deep into them, so they can't innovate like that.

No power or infrastructure required.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Casascius_physical_bitcoins

I mean fair enough just that another money could get you out of that situation before it gets that bad. If nothing else than through bribes.

Inflation occurs when governments print money and so with these cryptocurrencies, at least the good ones, the amount that is printed is known in advance and will never exceed certain boundaries. So even though the greedy people may wish to print more for themselves, they cannot do it because the system will not let them. And right now the system is perfectly happy to let them and fuck everybody else.

I mean, hell, I would like you to participate too. But I understand that may not be your thing. And that's okay. I don't want you to participate for some number go up mad gains stock casino thing. I want you to participate because I seriously believe that Monero can help move human freedom forward by eventually replacing government money.

I only use Monero, but still, it's a very good one.

No, it can't. It's built into the protocol and enforced. On other currencies such as Zcash, you can turn off privacy if you wish. But on Monero, it's not possible to opt out at all. You either have privacy or you don't use it at all.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1202503/global-cryptocurrency-user-base/

This is more Australia-focused, but https://www.forbes.com/advisor/au/investing/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency-statistics/

https://www.bankrate.com/investing/cryptocurrency-statistics/

This is such a good point.

I actually had the same thing happen to me because I discovered Bitcoin in 2011 and dismissed it as crazy and that the governments would never let it exist. And then several years later heard about it again in a news article and was like, wait, the government hasn't shut that down yet and started doing some reading and really understood

All currencies fluctuate against each other, but in most cases the currencies all fluctuate downwards in value within very close proximity to each other. You only see cracks start to appear when one currency becomes much weaker than the other ones. Look at the Japanese yen in the most recent days for an example. The big difference is that with the major cryptocurrencies the supply is either capped or very seriously constrained so it actually goes up in value while every other fiat currency in the world goes down in value over time.