secretlyaddictedtolinux @ secretlyaddictedtolinux @lemmy.world

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Do people know for sure that consciousness emanates from the brain only?

you've clearly never used one of his pillows

No one of even mild to low intelligence thinks Mike Lindell is a credible person.

This is a person who had a positive attitude and made a lot of money making pillows, then got older. He is religious and religion and aging affected his brain, especially because he's clearly not that bright to begin with as evidenced by his religious beliefs. Plenty of people do well in society without being that intelligent because they have a positive attitude.

Stripping this person of 5 million dollars is a form of laissez-faire elder abuse wrapped in the artifice of polite society and it's blatantly vile.

Just because he's a disgusting right-wing religious idiot doesn't mean that elder abuse is acceptable, and intelligent people in society should have the decency to prevent this sort of thing from happening.

I disagree. For hundreds of years, illogical religious beliefs have biased science. People should have a right to know if scientists have religious beliefs so they can be weary of their agendas affecting the results. Many religious beliefs are obviously illogical and make no sense and if a scientist believes them, it does illuminate the likelihood of the accuracy of their results.

For many years "scientists" said homosexuality was caused by "mental illness" and then suddenly they decided it's not. There were entire scientific programs devoted to racist beliefs that were psuedoscientific and often impacted by religious views justifying racism. Of course religion biases science and is a problem in having unbiased research!

I don't think we should outlaw religious people from practicing science, but their views should at least be known so people can scrutinize their work more closely.

People have died due to the greed and corruption of the leadership of Boeing. The people at the top have in fact gotten huge financial rewards by taking actions that were likely to kill people. There is no mechanism in US society to hold these people accountable. Are they going to get put in prison? Nope! Are they going to be PERSONALLY fined? Nope!

I really dislike how in Chinese society people are not able to criticize the government. I hope one day, everyone everywhere will have free speech. It's unfortunate to say this, but in China, this would be dealt with severely and and with impact. I am not saying their mechanism is right, but the US has no mechanism at all. We all know nothing will happen, especially because most of the deaths were foreigners. It's disgusting and makes the US look bad.

The animal and human dichotomy seems mostly religious in nature.

I consider myself an animal and consider your statement false.

People who publish scientific articles should be forced to declare their religious views at the top of the article so that if anything is listed other than "none" then it can just be automatically discarded unless it's replicated by a non-religious scientist. Religion just ruins everything, like running a computer with Windows.

The reality is he is an older American and 5 million dollars is a lot, it's not a 5 dollar bill. This is exploitation and society is only allowing it because he's a right wing religious idiot.

there needs to be some sort of space between "this person needs a conservator and can't have any rights" and "this is a logical rational person who can contractually give away 5 million dollars because he's filled with religious delusions"

Beneficiaries? Reappropriation?

Although I appreciate all these big words, I am trying to point out that collapse could occur much sooner than we all realize.

I am not actually suggesting "oil boiling," I was using the idea of a hot statue of moloch filled with oil executives as a allagorical simile and metaphor for people being upset.

My point is, civility may become more blatantly meaningless when the biosphere becomes more visibly in a state of complete collapse, and then all the buddhism and jesusism and sitting under a tree or behind desks and calmly talking about words isn't going to undo a collapsed biosphere.

I get how jesusism and civil complaints and erudishun have a place in society, but many people may care about those things less when the biosphere reaches a tipping point and the collapse becomes undeniable.

You are saying the normal liberal socially acceptable thing, let's have civil respectable accountability and change the future. But in the future, with a biosphere collapse, it may not be the normal thing to say. I'm sure when the new tropes come, you'll be ready.

(Which is exactly when someone.... not me... rolls in a giant metal hollow statue of moloch, conveniently on a pair of wheels... ready as a symbol... of accepting the future)

i don't know if it works like that. if you take a petri dish and put bacteria in it with an unlimited amount of glucose (a proxy for oil), colony collapse happens because of pollution

but the pollution doesn't go away later and the population doesn't come back to pre-collapse levels ever

It's Svante Arrhenius and John Tyndall's fault for not lighting themselves on fire publicly 150 years ago to warn everyone.

it's so true. i love your "high score" comment. we're all fucked right now because of this and there's no going back.

i wish i knew you in real life

you're writing, on the one hand, "it's not about revenge"

and i'm writing, on the other, that these oil-executives could make "moloch happy with a feast"

(i am not advocating for that specifically, but i am saying others could advocate for that)

in a way, I think we are actually saying the same thing, only you're saying it in terms of civil judgments and i'm saying it in terms of large hot statues of moloch filled with oil executives.

what if it's not 300 years until human extinction? what if it's 30?

Would you still be so civil?

Perhaps the scientists lighting themselves on fire to try to get us to notice the problem weren't protesting in a calm civil nice manner because it's really that bad.

What if we aren't saying the same thing? What if you are part of the problem with your civility?

this is unfair exploitation of mental illness.

Mike Lindell is an American hero with a story of success, making a great pillow everyone loved and making himself wealthy in the process

his religious delusions are a form of either mental illness or partial handicap and he shouldn't be stripped of everything because of that

his belief that the election was rigged AND he had the secret proof (that would hold up to court scrutiny) was clearly a religious delusion and if you think otherwise you don't understand how cults and mental illnesses intertwine

in a just world, this deal should be something he doesn't have to honor because he offered this "prove me wrong" thing to the public when he was clearly out of it

what about all the people he employed? the people he made happy with a decent pillow? we as a society have failed by allowing the religiously delusional to enter into any sort of unusual contracts at all. yes, the amish should be allowed to sell grain and the menonites should be allowed to sell delicious jams, but should we really allow right wing religious maniacs to enter into complex contracts?

no, of course not

this man should be given ALL his money back, and an apology from society for exploiting him. this man worked hard in life and doesn't deserve this

If you were mathmatically certain we were all going to die as a result of their actions, would your opinion still be the same?

I suppose I am more pessimistic when I look at graphs. It's not even about the most blatant damage, a lot of my concerns is based on the damage we aren't measuring. I think the game is over and we lost.

This can't be true! Really?

good point

Also to clarify, under the rules, certain actions may not constitute a breach to begin with and therefore the breach rules may not apply and also the exceptions may not apply.