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Does your mother still hang out at dock side bars?

Johnny… do you play baseball?

I’m a computer

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I know it’s hard to accept, but we can have nice things independent of big business.

So if Reddit or Twitter decided to join the fediverse… you would be ok with that?

Social media isn’t something neutral like email, social media companies manipulate their users’ opinions and their feeds for profit. I just don’t believe we should just give away the digital commons again. If Threads was just about killing Twitter, Facebook wouldn’t be adding fediverse functionality to Threads in the first place.

I’ve heard Sceptre TVs are non-Smart TVs.

As I said in the other thread: Would you want to federate with Reddit?

Google hasn’t actively tried to shutdown its competing email providers… Meta has (tried to purchase or shut down its competitors on multiple occasions). Why do you think they aren’t trying to do that this time?

Would you want to federate with Reddit?

Google hasn’t actively tried to shutdown its competing email providers… Meta has (tried to purchase or shut down its competitors on multiple occasions). Why do you think they aren’t trying to do that this time?

We could make a policy against federating with social media companies that have a history of either trying to take over their competitors, or when that doesn't work, trying to get laws passed to outlaw them.

My take is that it's a Trojan horse meant to handle a multiple potential competitors, the Fediverse being one of them. Meta tries to either take over or kill competitors: they purchased Instagram for fear of competing with it; they purchased Whatsapp; they considered purchasing TikTok and then when they didn't, they instead funded the push to malign it and ban it. This is all in addition to all the other things they've done (like manipulating teens' emotional states without their or their parents' consent, building shadow profiles for non-Facebook users, using a free data usage counter as a Trojan horse to figure out what apps people were using and then purchase one of the popular ones... WhatsApp, and the previously mentioned alleged warcrimes to name a few).

We agree that Meta Inc. has no moral scruples and buckets of money. Where we disagree is that I think that not only does the corporation have no moral scruples, I think they actively use their lack of morality to snuff out competition using what ever means possible and then shape opinion to make a profit. If Threads were just a client like Memmy, Jerboa, or Tusky it would be different, but it's not.

Edit: added a clause changed some formatting.

Meta is not a person and Meta as a corporation (and the people who run it) are complicit in war crimes.

As for their users (which I am not conflating with Meta, the corporate entity), there is nothing stopping them from creating a Lemmy account.

Again, Meta is not a person and Meta is not it’s users. There is nothing wrong with many of the people who use Meta products.

Edited: I apologize, I removed part of the comment that was on retrospect, uncalled for.

The point would in part be to prevent them from pulling an Embrace, Extend, Extinguish like Google did with XMPP.

I would counter that Meta has used their “tool” to in essence to support a genocide and that makes them untrustworthy.

As for having open standards with no gatekeepers… that point is a false equivalency. We have open standard like encryption, but that doesn’t mean one should go post their private ssh keys online. There are bad actors in this world and Meta Inc is one of them.

My opinion on this is to preemptively defederate as Meta has proven itself time and again to be a bad actor; they have proven willing manipulate their feeds and algorithms to induce rage based engagement and even though they wouldn’t be in control of the fediverse, they will still at the very least try to heavily influence it. If the fediverse wasn’t a possible threat to them, they wouldn’t have created an app for it and made current fediverse operators sign NDAs. Additionally, if we are complacent, they could start creating Lemmy style fediverse communities to gain control of that aspect of the fediverse as well.

I sometimes wonder if Reddit was hiring writers to write those posts to drive engagement.

@flamingos@feddit.uk

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