sartalon @ sartalon @lemmy.world

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Potential does not equal actual.

Are you that incapable of thought?

They know there was a leak and they know how much the pipeline holds but they don't know how much actually escaped.

The same press release you are quoting says, "The volume of discharged oil is currently unknown."

But the headline says more than a million gallons of oil leaked into the gulf.

If you don't understand how that is sensationalism, then you have more problems than this dumbass Internet argument.

I regret engaging because holy shit, so many of you are really fucking stupid.

That's just it, the USCG DIDN'T say the leak was a million gallons. They said it could be that much.

They know there was a leak and they know roughly how much oil the pipeline holds.

That's it. That is all they said. The story headline said that the USCG said that much DID leak when they very specifically didn't say that.

Where exactly did I move the goal posts? What was my bad faith argument?

Any.

Doesn't mean I'm going to lie about the amount to get clicks.

Let me ask you a similar question.

How much of a lie does it need to be before you are willing to call it a lie?

So you don't find it questionable that this happened a week ago yet the most they've found is a couple hundred gallons?

And all these sites that claim a million, in their headlines, all say lower in their stories that there is no actual measurement and that it is only potentially?

I feel it undermines the issue when people are dishonest. I consider these headlines to be dishonest.

I regret engaging that one idiot that claims dispersants were used by BP to submerge the oil so people can't see it.

That's the kind of disinformation and dishonesty that makes it so difficult to have real outcomes. All the noise drowns out the signal.

Nice gate keeping. Pretty sad that is the best you can do.

They do, it isn't a million. The article is deliberate sensationalism. If you read the Coast Guard's press releases, you will see they didn't say a million gallons was leaked.

Says the guy commenting on all my comments.

I'm getting downvotes, so how is this for clout?

You really are a special type of dumb.

"I think it is bad enough though, without the news source twisting it for sensationalism."

Are you stupid?

You make up shit and call me the pedant. Fine, I'll be blunt.

You are a liar and you make the internet a worse place by filling it with noise.

Next time you want to comment, at least have the decency to know what the you are talking about.

I don't disagree with your sentiment.

I think it is bad enough though, without the news source twisting it for sensationalism.

*Edit. Hmm, I guess you people are ok with lies as long as they support the narrative you want. Is this suddenly a GoP sub?

You are just another internet activist that has a very vague understanding of how shit works in real life and virtue signal for upvotes.

You could have said something like, "I will never forget the environmental catastrophe that BP caused." and I would have upvoted and moved on.

But you spoke like you knew what the hell you were talking about and someone else is going to read it and be like, "Yeah, they submerged the oil, fuck BP!" and your little rant just added to the useless noise that drowns out real facts.

You are NOT helping.

Misinformation hurts, no matter why you do it.

Just go back to reddit if all you want is upvotes.

Nice cherry picking.

Here, let me provide link, from the EPA:

https://www.epa.gov/emergency-response/dispersants

"Dispersants can be applied on surface oil or below the surface, closer to an uncontrolled release of crude oil from a well blowout source. In an oil spill, these smaller oil droplets disperse into the water column where they are transported by currents and subjected to other natural processes such as dissolution and biodegradation."

There are plenty of arguments against the use of dispersants, not the least of which is the toxicity of the dispersant itself. However there is a strong argument that supports it as the lesser of two evils.

People should have gone to jail over the BP spill. So many flagrant safety violations and illegal behavior were identified.

But you'll never forget the "submerging of the oil".

If you are going to virtue signal, at least base it off a real issue.

Any oil spill is terrible, but this article is blatant bullshit, written for clickbait.

That reporter/editor should be fined or charged with this blatant bullshit.

"The U S. Coast Guard said Monday that an estimated 1.1 million gallons of crude oil has leaked into the Gulf..." and linked the actual press release in that line.

When you actually read the press release, and then lower in the article, it says the amount is actually unknown.

They know how much oil the pipeline holds, which would be around that estimate. It could only be a couple hundred gallons that have actually leaked.

Also they are not even sure where the leak is, so it might not even be the named company's fault.

Yeah oil industry sucks, but this sounds like a fat nothing burger that CBS is pumping for clicks. No wonder no one trusts the media.

(This is a reposted comment from when this bullshit article was posted earlier)

The OP of this repost didn't even have the decency to share the qualifications from inside the article.

They are just as terrible of an attention seeking whore as the writer of the article.

We will absolutely have automation but the workers will just be fired and all profits will be absorbed by the stockholder.

No cost savings will be passed on the other consumer either.

That is what I love so much about standards: there are so many to choose from.

That reporter/editor should be fined or charged with this blatant bullshit.

"The U S. Coast Guard said Monday that an estimated 1.1 million gallons of crude oil has leaked into the Gulf..." and linked the actual press release in that line.

When you actually read the press release, and then lower in the article, it says the amount is actually unknown.

They know how much oil the pipeline holds, which would be around that estimate. It could only be a couple hundred gallons that have actually leaked.

Also they are not even sure where the leak is, so it might not even be the named company's fault.

Yeah oil industry sucks, but this sounds like a fat nothing burger that CBS is pumping for clicks. No wonder no one trusts the media.

My daughter was trying to sign up for a Steam account. We went through at least 10 of these stupid things... constantly failing somehow, then getting a "try again later" error without telling us what "later" fucking means.

I see your mom.