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  • Paid and FOSS are mutually exclusive. Open source and FOSS aren't.

    But how, you ask? Free means having the right to do whatever you want with your copy including make copies and redistribute. Thus, how can it be free while demanding a payment before allowing usage?

    That's why I said, FOSS Droid? Nah! Open Source Droid? Knock yourself out. I'm actually looking forward to supporting some of the developers of apps I love.

  • Apparently they don't understand that the F in F-Droid is for FOSS.

    I'm 100% all for adding a repository with paid apps, but it's not and shouldn't be marketed as F-Droid.

  • Not gonna like. This is interesting. Who knew that messing with the ROM community could put Google in trouble.

  • It is enabled by default and you need to know that you must disable it.

    This is funny because every other browser has a form of PPA or is straight exempting a bunch of ads. Mozilla are still committed to maintaining the protections of adblockers.

  • valid criticisms

    Was? I saw someone say that Mozilla were implementing PPA so they could take a cut of all adverts that appear via the browser. It's outrage for the sake of outrage. A bunch of people that run adblockers, whipping up a storm about something that doesn't affect them, because God forbid an alternative to Chromium based browsers exist or some other stupid as shit idea. All hail the Internet purists. If it doesn't benefit them directly, it has to be bad.

  • You live in a town and to get from say the supermarket to the school, everyone cuts across a field. The problem is the field is quite overgrown and while it's okay in groups, it's considered dangerous with more than one incident taking place and people still insist on taking the path. The town mayor decided to put lights along the makeshift route that people use and also cut the grass. The residents of the town are mad because they never asked for the field to have its grass cut or for the lights to be put up. The major hopes that their actions will reduce the danger, but only time will tell.

  • Different people do things differently. Why do you think towns have more than one pub or shop.

  • We're in agreement BTW. But either way, just for the record, I do consider capitalist society broken and want to replace it. But I understand its not going to happen over night and the transition will be less than perfect.

  • One has nothing to do with another, since the other person replied with logical fallacies, I'll point out that you're using a false cause. Regarding your feeling devalued when you bandwagon and push a false narrative in order to assist in manufacturing outrage is on you.

    And for the record, reasonable people stick to the facts, they don't pull random bits of information to support theories with zero standing.

  • A lovely bit of tu quoque in the afternoon! 🤤

  • I think a reasonable person would say better ad-tracking does not provide a direct benefit to a user.

    That's not a reasonable person. That's an ignorant conspiracy theorist whose reality is grounded in delusion because right now advertisers take what they want and what they can get and the average user is depending on the browser to pay whack-a-mole with the invasive privacy tech they build and it's not sustainable.

    The argument is that better ad-tracking means that companies such as mozilla can make money from advertisements while providing "better" privacy then the cookies/fingerprinting everywhere model.

    There has never been a suggestion that Mozilla is planning to monetize PPA for themselves.

    That is a indirect benefit for the user. If they don't use the new ad-tracking how does their experience change? Not at all. So any benefits are down the line.

    The benefit is that it's better than what we have now.

  • if we'd all donated even a fraction of what its genuinely worth, they probably wouldn't have to make these kinds of faustian deals

    That's wrong. The creation of PPA isn't about getting paid, it's about trying to safeguard the privacy of the average (non tech savvy) user. I don't understand where this suggestion that this is a means for Mozilla to syphon money, comes from.

  • That there's no direct benefit to the user.

  • But in the implementation I proposed, moderators would get to subscribe their communities to hashtags they choose or none at all.

  • Fragmentation is a myth. Look at the various different technology groups that are all thriving on different instances. Stop (inadvertantly) pushing for centralization!

  • The counter argument is that all ads are bad and that we should create an Internet whereby ads don't exist. Reality says that ads aren't going anywhere. So rather than let them do what they want with invasive privacy tracking, it's best to ring fence advertisers and give them enough actionable data to appease. Now you may be thinking, we don't negotiate with terrorists! But you do, it happens all the time. In this case, it's giving advertisers enough to leave innocent people alone. As for the not so innocent (people like me and you that run adblockers), this never affected us. People that run adblockers and are upset about this were just trying to manufacture outrage because for whatever reason, they feel that unless Mozilla does that they want exactly, they're unhappy.

    Just to be clear, and I'm probably oversimplifying, this is essentially a bunch of counters, user batch pressed ads on pages about _______ that was above the fold. So advertisers see ads on _____ site got __ impressions and was about _____ placement was above the fold and generated __ hits.

    Smarter people that me have explained it in more and exact detail where as I'm just painting a vague picture of a concept to try and convey things.

  • There's a lot of people that trust the privacy guides website and yet the founder is just spewing emotional bullshit that's not even grounded in facts. A bunch of smart people can see the benefit to the average end user and then Jonah is putting out bullshit. I'm disappointed in him and privacy guides.

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