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  • I don't want to sound like a jerk, and I say this with all due respect for Void, which I kind of like, but...

    If your argument against a command needing too many keystrokes is "use alias" then you've already lost. Even you think it's too long. Thats why you use alias...

  • Okay. Then use Endeavor. Easy to install, good tools, and not run by people who've let their SSL cert lapse 4 times.

    But honestly, if you can't deal with Arch install, I have to wonder if you wouldn't be better off with something other than Arch and Arch based distros. Generally speaking, Arch based distros require more command line and config file editing.

    I just don't think Arch and Arch based distros are a good fit for beginners. If you're intimidated by a TUI installer, you should start somewhere else. Fedora has a... usable installer and great GUI tools, for instance.

    I'm not judging or bashing on anyone. But it's like trying to learn how to knit by starting with a sweater. You're in over your head before you even get started.

  • Although I like NixOS, I have to agree with the documentation being crap. Which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so damn different. I mean, other distros have bad documentation, I just read some man pages or check the Arch or Fedora docs.

  • Gonna go with Manjaro. I can't, for the life of me, understand why it gets the support it does. It's not fantastic to begin with, with an apparently incompetent management team. Add in that all the theming is flat and lifeless, and I'm just confused.

    I mean, any Arch derived distro with an "easy installer" kinda confuses me. Archinstall is fairly easy to use (although a bit ugly), and most other Arch based distros seem to miss what I see as the main point of Arch: getting to know and personalize your system. So things like Endeavor, Xero, etc. Don't make a lot of sense to me either. But at least they're not effectively accidentally DDOSing the AUR...

  • Honestly I promise you're better off using a better organization system than dump it on the desktop... But I can totally solve that problem for you!

    It's a little tough to explain, but what you're looking for is a different Desktop Environment. Fedora Workstation uses Gnome, which doesn't do desktop icons by default. I love it, but it's not for everyone.

    Fortunately, this is Linux so you have a choice!

    If you want to stick with Fedora, use the KDE or Cinnamon spin. Check the Fedora Spins page:

    https://fedoraproject.org/spins/

    KDE is super customizable and modern, with lots of fun stuff you can do with the desktop, while Cinnamon is a bit less flexible but more familiar for folks coming from Windows. Either way, you can clutter up your desktop to your heart's content 😁.

    Either way, it's still Fedora underneath.

    If you really want to try something not Fedora, then you could go Linux Mint if you like the way Cinnamon looks; they invented that Desktop Environment, and make what might be the most beginner friendly Linux Distro:

    https://linuxmint.com/

    If you'd rather KDE and want something. other than Fedora, then I can suggest KDE Neon. It's actually handled by the KDE project itself:

    https://neon.kde.org/

    Hope that helps, and if you have any more questions, I'll help if I can.

  • They're talking about a possible KDE spin, but last I saw it was a low priority. Since all the custom GUI tools ate being made in GTK4. In order to do up KDE the way they're doing Gnome and keeping the desktop as "vanilla" as possible, it would be a pretty big job converting all that stuff to QT I would think.

  • As a complete Linux noob coming from Windows, I'd say Mint is the way to go. If you're worried about Cinnamon being too heavy, Mate is much lighter and a lot of fun. I'm especially fond of their file browser Caja.

    Your second choice, Fedora, is my go to system, and I'll cheerfully sing it's praises. If you want to go that way, check out the KDE, Cinnamon, XFCE, or LXDE spins, but I will say it's a bit less beginner friendly. Make sure you enable the non-free repositories when you log in for the first time!

  • most Christians now days represent almost everything Jesus spoke against.

    As an atheist, I find it surreal that I behave more in line with Christ's teachings than most Christians I know. And I know the bible better, which is also weird.

  • Yes, that was the gist of their point I think. The thinking being that choosing the lesser evil is still choosing evil. My point was that if evil is going to win no matter what you do, isn't it better to pick which evil you're going to have to deal with?

  • Well, they all have their own strengths. I guess my favorites would be, in no particular order:

    • Arch - Elegant and minimalist, Arch is where you go if you want to learn how your system works. But what I love most about Arch is the wiki. About 75% of the time, I can solve any problem I run into on any distro by referencing that wiki.
    • Debian - easy to use and with rock-solid stability. The website is terrible though.
    • Fedora is the one I always come back to, though. It's got a great balance between cutting edge and stability, it's easy to use, I'm strangely attached to DNF, and it just sorta feels like home. The community is nice too.

    I like some others; Nobara is great if you're a gamer, KDE Neon gives you an awesome and stable KDE environment, and Linux Mint is perfect for.beginners.