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Why you say it's a clickbait? The article does talks about the points you mention.

Not too sure about what sort of confirmation you are looking for.

The following come from the article:

“We know for sure that three people were killed by our fire, three hostages,” she declared, while demanding to be informed of whether the families of captives “were given up on” by the Netanyahu administration.

Freed Israeli captives have also delivered harrowing accounts of the massive Israeli bombings they endured. According to a Facebook post by Israeli television producer Hagai Levi, “From the reports of the returning abductees, it is repeated that the most horrifying captivity trauma they experienced was probably the IDF bombings.

In a previous appearance on Israel’s Channel 13, Dan told her interviewer that “we know for sure that not only did [Israeli civilians] hear bombings, but buildings collapsed on top of their inhabitants,” and that “hostages were injured” in the attacks.

Meanwhile, back in Jerusalem, Israeli soldiers executed a Jewish Israeli man on camera who had attempted to fight off Palestinian militants that opened fire at a Jerusalem bus stop – shooting him dead even after he threw away his gun and pleaded for his life.

I still have trouble conceptualizing how they can do that to someone so helpless

The way I see thing, this is a very dangerous way of approaching the matter.
Imagine how a young adult that is a bodybuilder/athlete/etc that has been raped, would feel if they stumbles on something like that.

Relevant article: Freed Palestinian Prisoners Say They Faced Torture and Rape in Israeli Jails - Democracy Now

Worms are fine. Rape is terrible at any age.

I wonder why you say this? Anyways, I had the same conversation yesterday, so I hope you won't mind if I just copy-paste the answer.

According to the United Nations they are settlers. [link - March 2022]

“There is today in the Palestinian territory occupied by Israel since 1967 a deeply discriminatory dual legal and political system, that privileges the 700,000 Israeli Jewish settlers living in the 300 illegal Israeli settlements in East Jerusalem and the West Bank,” said Michael Lynk, the UN Special Rapporteur for the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967

Also even The Times of Israel calls them settlers
Palestinian shot dead by settler while harvesting olives in West Bank – report

So, I think it would be fair to say it is the correct word?

In The Guardian it was reported very differently. Like it was an arranged retirement and this was just his exit letter

Top UN official in New York steps down citing ‘genocide’ of Palestinian civilians

He informed the UN in March 2023 of his upcoming retirement

You said this:

Jews across the world calling for peace

and it reminded me of them and they are amazing:

Jewish Voice for Peace

That is something?

As the war enters its 20th day, support from the country's population has begun to turn, with at least 49 percent of Israelis saying they want the government to hold off on any invasion of Gaza, according to an opinion poll published by Hebrew daily Maariv on 27 October.

On the other hand, it looks like Netanyahu doesn't listen to the people anyway.
Israel: Protests escalate against Netanyahu 'dictatorship'

According to the United Nations they are settlers. [link - March 2022]

“There is today in the Palestinian territory occupied by Israel since 1967 a deeply discriminatory dual legal and political system, that privileges the 700,000 Israeli Jewish settlers living in the 300 illegal Israeli settlements in East Jerusalem and the West Bank,” said Michael Lynk, the UN Special Rapporteur for the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967

Also, even though english is not my first language, I would argue that picking on helpless people is not synonym to killing people and/or dispossessing them of their homes and land.

Even The Times of Israel calls them settlers
Palestinian shot dead by settler while harvesting olives in West Bank – report

To my understanding this concept paper came from wikileaks [wikileaks twitter link and
twitter link translated in english]

Thank you so much!

@TokenBoomer do you perhaps know a way to skip the subscription part in order to view the article?

The following article gives an overview of the background of the situation:

Olive Groves in the West Bank Have Become a Battleground. That's Why Volunteers Come From Around the World to Help at Harvest Time

Some relevant info by the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ): Journalist casualties in the Israel-Gaza conflict