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Well it wouldn't be news if it wasn't newsworthy :p

Isn't this basically the same thing as clicking a .apk or .exe link in a browser (which already works on mobile/desktop)?

illegal in the EU*

When I first read the title I thought it was some clickbait claiming that US cloud providers themselves would all be found to be illegal and cease to exist at all, which is of course, preposterous. Some clarification in the title would have helped.

I would hope the difference is that the f-droid version does not contain any proprietary code.

Not sure if this fits your definition of OS, proper, or install, but FWIW you can already download an apk directly from github using most Android browsers and it will open (or give you the option to open) it with the system's package installer.

Yes I agree with everything you said.

Thank you for your perspective. Yes I think people can find both extremes and everything inbetween depending on where they look, but I don't think that necessarily represents a majority of the population. I do think more can probably be done to reduce waiting times for people on either side though.

Yes I agree with your points.

Yes I think both situations are often not ideal. At least in US you have the option, if you have the money, to be able to go to an "out of network" facility that can see you much sooner and probably get a much better standard of care.

Probably doesn't outweigh the cons for everyone else though.

not from VPN provider and legit websites

Why not? Aren't you worried about either of them selling/leaking your data? I think a lot of people here are.

It was 4 months wait for myself but I have seen similar threads for people that had to wait 6.

I had to wait 4 months to see a doctor for my uLMS, and I personally know of several others now with worse conditions that also had to wait months. If you search around online you will also find many more similar occurrences. Same for ER visits taking literally all day long.

In general I don't think it is a lie, this IS happening.

How much it goes on, or how often it might be a made up occurrence, and how often that needs to happen for you to consider it a "lie", might be a separate matter.

My only point was in response to OP saying about Canada "I like our system", and I was just pointing out that not everyone does, because there can be very long waiting periods and/or the care received may not be what you wanted.

I was not talking about the US at all.

Thank you for your comments.

I wasn't trying to imply anything about the US at all, or draw any similarities.

A lot of Canadians have to wait exorbitant amounts of time to see a doctor, it's not always fast and effective service.

Oh you got cancer? That specialist can see you in 6 months when you're already dead.

Don't get me wrong free healthcare is great in that it's free, but that doesn't always guarantee it's good or fast.

I think it depends on where the bottleneck is, and what they're actually trying to prevent, as to whether or not rate-limiting would actually help anything.

If they are blocking source IP addresses explicitly, it could be for a more specific concern we're not aware of, like trying to limit the amount of email "spam" that would be sent out from automated requests. A rate-limit wouldn't fix that issue, only slow it down.

We're all also assuming any of this is even intentional on their or anyone's part.

I think you assume that there is even a contract, and that if it did exist, it wouldn't allow this.

Going to court for this would also cost way more than the product is worth.

I think if hosting an RMA form requires paying for 500x more bandwidth than it's supposed to just because it's being hammered by bots on VPNs, and this was your company, you'd block them too.

Why did November change that for you? What has actually increased your need for a gun since then?