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  • Can someone explain how these organizations 'undermine the economy and democracy'?

    • there's room for arguments regarding exploited workers in any industry, but tech is usually compensated well , at least compared to some industry. Maybe they are not compensated well in other developing nations?
    • not sure how cloud/tech companies undermine democracy or economies
  • Ha, I was actually taking about the space program, but same for the invasion. Although, I feel like more people have come forward about the invasion being BS than early space program stuff.

  • I don't disagree, but has anyone found corroborating evidence or documentation, past speculation and reasonable assumption?

  • I'm on a phone, so this is the low effort result I'm got from copilot ( I know...I know...):


    According to the data from my internal tools, the cost of living in Portland, Oregon is higher than the national average in most categories. Here are some of the key findings:

    • The average rent for an apartment in Portland is $1,728⁵, which is 35% higher than the national median of $1,280[10]. The average rent varies depending on the size, location, and quality of the apartment. The price range for all bedrooms and all property types is $485 to $15,000⁵.
    • The average annual consumer expenditure of consumer units in Portland is $61,334[10], which is slightly lower than the national average of $61,483¹¹. However, the percentage of spending on housing and housing-related costs is higher in Portland (34.9%) than in the U.S. (32.8%)[10].
    • The cost of living index in Portland is 127.7, which means the total cost of housing, food, childcare, transportation, healthcare, taxes, and other necessities is 27.7% higher than the U.S. average of 100⁷. The cost of living index varies depending on the source and methodology used. For example, another source reports the cost of living index in Portland as 136.3¹².
    • The cost of living in Portland is influenced by several factors, such as the high demand for housing, the relatively high income taxes, the environmental regulations, and the quality of life⁹. Portland is also known for its cultural diversity, progressive values, and natural beauty⁹. Some of the benefits of living in Portland include the public transportation system, the bike-friendly infrastructure, the access to outdoor recreation, and the vibrant arts and food scene⁹.

    Source: Conversation with Bing, 2/18/2024 (1) Average Rent in Portland & Rent Prices by Neighborhood - RentCafe. https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/or/portland/. (2) Examining The Cost Of Living By State In 2024 - Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/cost-of-living-by-state/. (3) U.S. cost of living - statistics & facts | Statista. https://www.statista.com/topics/768/cost-of-living/. (4) Cost of Living in Portland, OR 2024 | RentCafe. https://www.rentcafe.com/cost-of-living-calculator/us/or/portland/. (5) Cost of Living in the United States: 2202 cities compared - Livingcost.org. https://livingcost.org/cost/united-states. (6) The Cost of Living in Portland in 2022 | Rent. Blog. https://www.rent.com/blog/cost-of-living-in-portland/. (7) Portland, OR Cost of Living - Sperling's BestPlaces. https://www.bestplaces.net/cost_of_living/city/oregon/portland. (8) Cost of Living in Portland, Oregon. Feb 2024. Prices in Portland - Numbeo. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Portland. (9) Cost of Living in Portland, OR: rent, food, transport [2023]. https://livingcost.org/cost/united-states/or/portland. (10) Cost of Living in Portland, Oregon. Updated Prices Feb 2024. - Expatistan. https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/portland. (11) Average Rental Price in Portland, OR & Market Trends - Zillow. https://www.zillow.com/rental-manager/market-trends/portland-or/. (12) Average Rent in Portland, OR - 2024 Rent Prices by Neighborhood. https://www.apartments.com/rent-market-trends/portland-or/. (13) Cost of Living Index by State 2024 - World Population Review. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/cost-of-living-index-by-state. (14) Cost of Living in United States - Numbeo. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=United+States.


    At face value, based on summarized data, looks like it's expensive there.

    Is that sole causation for increase homelessness? Or just a contributing factor an addition to drug use? 🤔

  • That's a real concern for sure.

    I've got c5/6 stuff, already doing cortisone, worried about the future and pain management.

    Loads of people trying to balance PM without becoming addicts. Now that we've finally seen the systemic pharmaceutical industry issues.

  • Your take away was people couldn't get treatment?

    It said there was little treatment participation.

    Perhaps this could be related to the logistics of getting there perhaps.

  • I'm mostly puzzled by how this would be carried out when the vast majority of information seems to be discretionary, interpreted, perceived, opinion. Like the statement I just made ;)

    Facts either are or aren't.

    Misinformation is vary more challenging because it's usually derived from an event that was a fact, but the interpretation, analysis, significance, etc is based on the person's bias.

  • Yeah, the second anyone posts anything to any service, all their house are belong to the evil corp...

    I just blended two references...

  • There's so many liers everywhere, how do you even determine misinformation anymore?

    How do fact check things and hide it if it's BS?

  • They'll need to start consuming all that extra electricity to power LLMs to analyze climate change data🤔

  • If you use your email address, they can follow you everywhere. Unless you create tons of throw away emails.

  • These are good points, well said.

    I agree. Insert great power/responsibility saying.

    They always seem to go off the rails.

    I would be in favor of mandatory disclosure (though, this would be extremely difficult and costly). I imagine anytime a government privilege was used, especially when behind closed doors, and reviewed by "...the proper oversight officials...", whoever that means, I would rather like the governments to prove it.

    I would support an idea that by law, it all has to be documented, and after a reasonable amount of time after the prosecution is complete, they have to disclose everything they did, all the snooping, etc. With redacted private information of course for unrelated people.

    This is fairly unreasonable/unrealistic. But for me, if you could see all the cases where a government invaded privacy and link it to all to nothing but legitimate uses, it might help restore some faith/trust in officials.

  • @GiddyGap@lemm.ee

    Since I also appreciate EUs privacy mindset, and you guys actually mentioned interesting things about the various populations, I'm going to post devil's advocate question:

    Is there anything to allow privacy invasion we should do for law enforcement and CSAM? Since that's all political excuses for it?

    Here's a story I heard recently that talks about it from a technician cyber crime podcast: https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/131/

    Disclaimer: I cried while on a run in the middle of a populated area.

    My emotions on the topic go from shock and sadness to the punisher style rage, and what vigilante justice.

    There's also apps like kik, where apparently this shit is unchecked.

    So my question is, can we all have our no data collection privacy, but still give law enforcement a way to hunt these pieces of shit into extinction without them overreaching?

  • lifestyle choices

    lol, you should have made better choices with the ? thing you can control of those.

    /s

  • cooking smells

    I wonder if the smell of hamburger is offensive to vegans?