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Maybe you use a VPN? Maybe you clicked "Accept" by accident once? Maybe the paywall is limited to particular networks? etc., etc.

who fucked us all over in the first place

Brexit was money well spent as far as I'm concerned. Fuck the EU.

They refuse access in the UK unless you permit tracking cookies or pay them.

Paywall-free: https://archive.is/0CHsG

Oh look! We can make beneficial treaties with the EU without being a member! Yay brexit!

Edit: not /s

I think it will be a slow, drawn out but painful decline.

Can I ask what's made you think that?

That's because the important bit is the "gave £330 million to Palantir" and not the "NHS data platform". Palantir execs are laughing, NHS managers are paying their mortgages, all is well. Where's the problem?

I don't think we can predict it

Ummm...

I believe the decline will happen in our lifetimes

....that's a prediction :-)

Here's mine:

First famine: 2028

World reaching half 2025 population: 2030/31

Year brexit becomes irrelevant: 2028

Again, I'm totally mystified about your focus on brexit.

None of us can predict that

Sure we can. A prediction is stating what we think will happen, not stating what will happen.

It will be gradual, and we will suffer a painful decline long before other countries in mainland Europe

What do you mean by "long"?

it will be gradual rather than instantaneous

Of course it won't be "instantaneous" but I still can't see how brexit will have an impact. The people who experience the first famine will be the same ones who experience the death of billions. Brexit will mean nothing.

I'm curious, would you be willing to put some dates to your expectations?

1. Year of first famine.
2. Year that population reaches half of 2025 population.
3. Year that brexit ceases to be relevant to living people.

When we're facing food shortages around the world, the UK will suffer before others.

Firstly, this doesn't follow from what preceded it. States in the EU aren't the only states on the planet that export food.

Secondly, I think I see what you're trying to say: you think that as the planet slides into famine, the UK will be worse off compared to EU states in particular because during the slide into death, the slope will be ever so slightly steeper than some countries in the EU.

we will be the first to suffer

Uhh.. eh? What do you mean?

countries can sell to their neighbours

They can't sell food they don't have. How can you still be thinking that climate change is going to be like a temporary blip in food supply? Don't you understand that we're all fucked? You really think that Brexit and all the rest of the bureaucratic nonsense people have considered important up until now will mean anything when half the population of the planet has starved to death? Don't you get where we're headed?

A click bait headline would also be "Rightwing populists will keep winning until we grasp this truth about human nature".

Do you understand what "clickbait" means?

I didn't say the posting of the title was clickbait, I said the title was click-bait.

Click-bait title

The UK is known for rain

Had been known for rain. Until recently. When the climate started shitting on the status quo.

will let me know

ROFL

A free trade agreement wouldn't make any difference, we're all fucked either way.

Speak for yourself. The climate's a bit fucked in case you hadn't noticed. Each year now I wonder: is this the year we face the first famine? (Of the many to come, until most of us are dead?)