PugJesus @ PugJesus @kbin.social

Cripple. History Major. Vaguely left-wing.

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Jesus fucking Christ. I hate that 3/4s of this country have forgotten what is written in the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty.

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

My only consolation is the hypocrisy and stupidity isn't new

God, I hate GOP shitheads.

If that were the case, we would have been a fascist state long ago.

Nothing short of domestic capitulation to fascism is too much to stop support for Ukraine. We can reverse shitty policies. We can't reverse the destruction of sovereignty and genocide of a people by an imperialist power.

Yes, but the distinction is legally important. Like I said - the issue is general attitudes towards how it's 'okay' to treat prisoners rather than the wording of the 13th Amendment.

I believe they're using it sarcastically, especially considering that they say prison labor is vile.

In most states, it's not involuntary. It's just horrifically sub-minimum wage. The issue is less that clause of the 13th, and more the general attitude and laws towards prisoners.

Joshua Graham from Honest Hearts (the Zion one).

We can't expect God to do all the work

Vile.

Can you hear it in your head

Surfing is halal, generosity is mustahabb. You take the man to the beach!

Fucking what

Yeah, but when most people say "Border crisis", they don't mean "Holy shit refugees are in inhumane conditions, we need to help them", they mean "I'm scared that there are too many brown people coming into MY good, white, Christian country!"

You must be licking some damn good pennies

Plenty of businessmen who are absolute fucking loons. Just look at the Mypillow guy. Same way the American Revolution got started, and the US Civil War. Rich folk loan the rebel government money either out of idealism or as a bet on the success on the rebels.

My point isn't that it's sustainable. My point is that it's very possible to lure people who are living paycheck-to-paycheck to get involved in a war at the outset. The issue comes if the war drags on, and the rebel government starts to have trouble paying wages.

but also because you’re not going to get people leaving their families and going to the front lines when everyone is living paycheck-to-paycheck without a draft and good luck with trying to institute a draft.

Sure you are. One of the first things every civil war starts out doing is paying soldiery. What better way to lure those living paycheck-to-paycheck than offering them a paycheck AND a cause?

While Truman's advocacy of civil rights in the '48 platform is definitely pivotal in terms of effecting policy, I would raise the question as to how much of the change in opinions was due to the party tack, and how much was due to the ongoing and revitalized post-WW2 civil rights movement and increasing integration and civic participation of liberal blocs in the north.

I suppose it's academic in the end. I would love for the Dem party to take up the issue, like I said. It's just a 'chicken or the egg' question.

Yeah. My thinking is that a forceful response by the US government will end up more "Ruby Bridges" than "Sherman's March", but we also must be ready for the latter if the GOP proves insane enough to escalate. I think it was Sherman who once wrote that the wages of tolerating secession would be eternal war, as local powers squabble and quarrel and attempt to oppress one another, and the central government becomes powerless and eventually withers away - or becomes authoritarian as people (foolishly) begin to yearn for a 'strong man' to restore order.

Stop, now I want it to happen

Not by much, I'd wager. Democrats don't tend to sway their opinions much when the party takes a different line than the majority Dem opinion, and Republicans are too racist to change their views on the border.

It would be nice to have a voice of sanity in the fucking country, though.