PugJesus @ PugJesus @kbin.social

Cripple. History Major. Vaguely left-wing.

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Yeah. Funny enough though, my preferred candidate would still have the two oldest fucks in presidential history, it just would've been a different oldest fuck on one side.

And that’s… not how anarchy works.

It literally is. Acceptance into an anarchist commune has, historically, been far from guaranteed just by wandering in and saying "I would like to automatically be a full member of your commune." when there are large portions of the population which are quite opposed to the ideals you want to uphold.

People are only excluded if they are doing something really egregiously antithetical to anarchism – for example, attempting to introduce hierarchical structures or otherwise treat others inequitably.

"You see, MY democracy where we strip people of voting rights and keep them as second-class citizens for what they believe is way better than those other so-called democracies where people vote based on what they believe!"

Very democratic, 10/10. Worst part is, it both contradicts your prior point, and it's not even a particularly anarchist answer.

Democrats play by the rule of law. Republicans quite openly do not.

Yeah. Putting my effort into Biden winning and democracy surviving for now.

A democracy is not “vote for this terrible person who’s less terrible than the other terrible person.”

It is if a large proportion of the voters believe in terrible positions.

Anarchist communities have democracy, we don’t

I'm curious - what happens when the anarchist community votes to exclude others from their community? Is that anarcho-fascism?

I didn't realize I lived in Israel and was voting for Israeli politicians?

"You need to change opinions in a democracy in order to succeed in changing policy in a democracy."

Care to elaborate how that's got anything to do with the road to hell being paved with good intentions?

"Biden is a fascist dictator"

Literally the same shit MAGA cultists say, lmao.

This is a personal attack based on a deliberate misrepresentation of what I said.

And you think the US is a democracy? HAHAHAHA

I voted for this disgusting “person” in 2020, didn’t I?

No, seems like an accurate account of what you said.

Thank you for confirming you don't believe in democracy as a means of coming to decisions.

"Close the border" is ridiculous rhetoric which appeals to far too many of the electorate. Unfortunately, we need to change opinions on the ground before it's no longer viable to use.

I don't own a gun to off myself, and I'm too crippled to go hand-to-hand with any real chance of success. If I don't have enough warning before the goon squad comes to overdose on something, I'm pretty fucked.

"I oppose the end of slavery without gay marriage." - LinkOpensChestwav circa 1861

You will ONLY get votes for Biden stepping to the left.

This is fucking delusional. Democrats are not all further to the left than Biden - you'll never get conservative votes, but you can sure as shit lose moderate Democrats. And the only leftists not voting Dem at this point, with 'Day-One Dictator' running, are people who run fucking purity tests and won't be satisfied until Biden is waving a red flag. Which, while amusing, is not a realistic way to win an election in the current US.

And I don’t compromise and barter with innocent lives.

lmao

This, but unironically.

lmao. When reality is too ridiculous to satirize.

And you think the US is a democracy?

So you weren't planning on voting to begin with. So your entire fit here is just... what? Attention-seeking?

Because you think if 70% of the population believes we should dehumanize and imprison innocent people, then you’re just fine with that.

I think that if 70% of the population thinks we should dehumanize and imprison innocent people, opposition is pretty clearly not a position that's going to win a majority of the vote, which is necessary to win an election. Put another way - Truman running on desegregation in the late 1940s, but not gay marriage, was completely acceptable, because there was no fucking way the majority of the population was going to vote in favor of gay marriage.

You address what problems you can with politicians - the rest, you have to change minds on the ground. You want to change this situation? Argue with your fellow citizens. Get them out of their mindset of border hysteria. But throwing a fit over how democracy works on a basic level isn't going to help anyone.