What if downvotes actually did something?
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I prefer Slashdot style mod points to upvotes/downvotes as there is an opportunity cost to voting. I find it fosters more interesting and less echo-chambery discussions.
I got no clue what "Slashdot" is. Wikipedia says:
Slashdot (sometimes abbreviated as /.) is a social news website that originally billed itself as "News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters". It features news stories on science, technology, and politics that are submitted and evaluated by site users and editors. Each story has a comments section where users can add online comments.
It doesn't really explain how the voting system works there. Mind to explain it?
No that's a horrible idea. It should be up to the Admins and Mods to decide what speech is allowed in their instances and communities. Making downvotes have a negative effect would only encourage bad actors to create accounts solely to downvote people, which will in turn create a black market of buying downvotes, to censor post you don't like, and upvotes, to up censor votes you like.
This agricultural industry around farming accounts to downvote would overwhelm the Admins with account applications. People could also create instances for se sole purpose of making downvoting bot accounts. You might say those instances could be blocked. True, they would. But this could go from bad to worse considering that this could open the door to instance Admins themselves doing downvote based censorship, since they can create has many accounts as they want.
Also, I fell like this is relevant:
The whole point of the Fediverse is since we all want different things from our social media and people will always disagree on something, it is better to have different independent instances, which federate and defederate to create a nice environment for all. People who disagree on something (like whether nsfw content or curse words should be allowed) so much to the point of ruining their experience, they can just go to instances where that content is blocked, instead of spending an eternity arguing over it. This allows for diversity of thought and opinion over the whole system.
I had no idea u/UniversalMonk@lemm.ee even existed lol. Congratulations u/SelfProgrammed@lemmy.today, you just advertised this guy's account to who knows how many people.
What? The only thing stopping the oligarch from buying an army and enslaving everyone who can't fight back is the fact that the government has a bigger army to stop them before they have time to even think about it. Monopolies of violence. It's not that hard to figure this out.
The only reason why "ownership" even exists is because the government's army serves as a threat to anyone who even thinks about disrespecting it. Without is, nothing is stopping someone who can exert more violence than you from stealing everything you thought you owned.
Well, it was only a matter of time till the bot got to me!
Funny you put quotes on the word liberal. You know words have meanings and definitions right? I know many people don't bother to check a term's meaning and end up miss using it, but that does not detract from the fact that the word still has meaning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property and equality before the law. Liberals espouse various and often mutually warring views depending on their understanding of these principles but generally support private property, market economies, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion. Liberalism is frequently cited as the dominant ideology of modern history.
Note that liberalism defends the right to private property (AKA Capitalism). (Also, private property and personal property are two different things.)
Why do the anti-authoritarians not confine themselves to crying out against political authority, the state? All Socialists are agreed that the political state, and with it political authority, will disappear as a result of the coming social revolution, that is, that public functions will lose their political character and will be transformed into the simple administrative functions of watching over the true interests of society. But the anti-authoritarians demand that the political state be abolished at one stroke, even before the social conditions that gave birth to it have been destroyed. They demand that the first act of the social revolution shall be the abolition of authority. Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if it had not made use of this authority of the armed people against the bourgeois? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach it for not having used it freely enough?
On authority, by Frederick Engels 1872
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm
Interested in astronomy you say? Well mander.xyz describe themselves as a "An instance dedicated to nature and science.". They have a astronomy community with, some activity - !astronomy@mander.xyz. I'm not on mander so I don't know how things are there, but I pretty much don't ever see anyone complaining about it.
feddit.uk is a UK instance. So there might be some interesting things there for you.
lemmy.ee is known for not defederating unless absolutely necessary.
On the topic of defederating, lemmy.world is somewhat disliked due to their defederation happy tendencies. For the most part, though, this whole instance wars thing is mostly due to disagreements on what kind of political discourse should be allowed. Instances like lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net and lemmy.ml are a bit too left-wing for many people from the center-right to handle: the world views are just too different.
I could rant about the dam instance wars, but it is not what you came were for.
AI art being inherently “plagiarising”
Yes it is, simply due to the nature of the "training"/"learning" process, which is learning in name alone. If you know how this mathematical process works you know the machine's definition of success is how well it's output matches the data it was trained with. The machine is effectively trying to encrypt it's data base on it's nodes. I would recommend you inform yourself on how the "training" process actually works, down to the mathematical level.
AI using as much energy’s crypto , the AI = crypto mindset in general
AI is often push by the same people who pushed NFTs and whatnot, so this is somewhat understandable. And yes, AI consumes a lot of energy and water. Maybe not as much as crypto, but still, not something we can afford to use for mindless entertainment in our current climate catastrophe.
AI art “having no soul”
Yup. AI "art" works by finding pixel patterns that repeat with a given token. Due to it's nature, it can only repeat patterns which it identified in it's training data. Now, we have all heard of the saying "An image in worth a thousand words". This saying is quite the understatement. For one to describe an image down to the last detail, such detail that someone who never saw the image could perfectly replicate it, one how need more than a thousand words, as evidenced by computer image files, since these are basically what was just described. The training data never has enough detail to describe the whole image in such detail and therefore it is incapable of doing anything too specific.
Art is very personal, the more of yourself you put into a piece, the more unique and "soulful" it will be. The more of the work you delegate to the machine, the less of yourself you can put into the piece, and if 100% of the image generation was made by the machine, which is in turn simply calculating an average image that matches the prompt, then nothing of you is in the piece. It is nothing more than the maths that created it.
Simple text descriptions do not give the human meaningful control over the final piece, and that is why pretty much any artist worth their tittle is not using it.
Also, the irony that we are automating the arts, something which people enjoy doing, instead of the soul degrading jobs nobody wants to do, should not be lost on us.
“Peops use AI to do «BAD THING» , therefour AI ISZ THE DEVILLLL ‼‼‼”
It is true that AI is being used in horrible was that will take sometime to adapt, it is simply that the negative usages of AI have more visibility than the positive usages. As a matter of fact, this node network technology was already in use in many fields before the Chat-GPT induced AI hype train.
can’t trust anti AI peops to actually criticise the tech
Correct. It is well known that those who stem to financially benefit from the success of AI are more than willing to lie about it's true capabilities.
Yup. Its seems like it.
Funny how any mention of it being a paid service is only at the bottom of the page.
Does anyone know of any alternatives?
Yes... we should probably ban Xitter links... but maybe allow other front ends? You know, because screenshots can be forged.
Why don't you asked them yourself? !askchapo@hexbear.net
Probably a bad idea to ask about a Marxist instance on a .world community, since .world is known to be quite biased against Marxism.
Nobody "owns" land. Even under capitalism. If you think you do, stop paying the rent tax you pay the government in order to "own" that land and see what happens.
Point is, even if you "own" a house, if the government decides they want to confiscate it, they have a whole army to do it. All ownership is always at the mercy of the government. (More accurately, ownership is at the mercy of whoever has the monopoly on violence, since they can only take ownership through it.)
Hummm... Maybe I could find some videos showing some class warfare. Let me see... Found some tangential ones.
The Reason You're Poor (It's more than just taxes)
Welfare: For them, but not for you!(How YOU Subsidize Everything)
America's Unemployment Problem
Landlord arguments suck (Debunking Arguments Landlords Use to Justify Their Existence)
This is what could find in a short period of time. Hope it helps? You should defensively read up on class struggle.
So you don't like schools, roads, public healthcare, having a police force to protect the citizens? You realize taxes pay for those right? And without them, if you get robbed, there will be no police to help you.
Also, did you know the bourgeoisie steal way more from you than the taxes you pay?
I could spend an hour writing a long winded explanation of why capitalists "earn" their wealth through wage theft... but Comrade Hakim already made a video that explains this concept pretty well so here.
You are severally over-estimating the computer skills of the general population. Here is some data on that.
Yup... right what I suspected! The Slippery Slope Fallacy!
Whats gonna happens when politicians realize kids are just gonna click “I’m at least [Age]”?
Many pornography work like that and can, as such, be easily bypassed. But does that mean we should drop the age restriction for access to pornography? Of course not!
Here is another example:
Murder. Murder shouldn't be legal and it is not. However, despite this restriction, some find ways to get away with murder. Does that mean that laws against murder are useless since we cannot stop murder 100% of the time? I highly doubt it.
It is impossible for any law enforcement to prevent 100% of all crimes, but that is not justification for those law to not exist.
Either you have a toothless law, or you live in a country with Great Firewall of China.
False dilemma fallacy.
Again, I'll refer to pornography. Many pornography work on the trust system. By your logic, that means we should drop all laws restricting access to it. However, that is absurd.
The point isn't to stop 100% of all usage. It is simply there to reduce the usage. You are forgetting that we are talking about human beings. Beings which have a natural tendency to conform to social norms as to not be cast out of their tribe (since humans cannot survive in the wild without each other, such would be a death sentence).
This law would set the societal precedent that people need to be of a certain age to access these social media apps (as shown by scientific data, which revealed that social media usage can have many negative effects on a developing mind). This societal precedent will, hopefully, make it taboo for people bellow 16 to access social media, which will, in turn, reduce, but not outright 100% stop, underage social media usage.
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How is restricting access behind an age requirement the same as the "Great Firewall". Right now, as we speak, you cannot use social media until you are 13. They are just increasing that requirement to 16.
There are many many many other things that are already lock behind an age restriction and I don't see you freaking out. Here are a few examples of things locked behind an age restriction:
- alcohol
- gambling
- cigarettes
- pornography
Media has age restrictions. Books have age restrictions, movies have age restrictions, games have age restrictions. Media has had age restrictions for a very long time and it's high time the same standards are applied to social media.
True... I suppose. Fortunately there are instances that have downvotes disabled. In the settings of your account you can also hide downvotes.