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Libertarian folks: pretty good example of why you need government. Permits are a good thing.

Haven't seen the film yet so maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying comparing physics to math in that way is like comparing apples to the molecules that make up apples. Physics is applied mathematics used to attempt to explain the physical workings of the universe. You can't have physics with no math.

And this is coming from an engineer, who thinks we're superior to both!

Did that judge not get the memo that the cruelty is the point?

It's the only consistent "virtue" they all share: cruelty gets them off.

I wasn't referring to leftists falling for it.

What I meant is that people on the left should be using these tactics against the same conservatives, because they've proven how gullible they are, to get them to do the opposite of what they'd normally do.

Like getting them to buy electric vehicles because they saw something on Facebook that told them that liberals are actually claiming now that they're worse for the environment than internal combustion.

Or, because they're so scientifically illiterate and incurious, we can convince them that bacteria and antibiotics are a liberal hoax so they go out of their way to give themselves life threatening bacterial infections.

Like I said, someone smarter than me can figure it out...

I guess corporations can do it much easier because they have basically endless resources.

How have left-leaning people in the media (or corporations, neither left or right, for that matter) not figured out how to harness the ease at which conservatives will turn on a product or technology based on who the messenger was? Seems so easy to intentionally manipulate.

Like the gas stove shit (in the US). How simple was it for Fox News, etc., to get millions of people who had no opinion on gas stoves whatsoever minutes earlier, to suddenly be willing to die to preserve their right to own gas stoves against some faceless enemy who is, in their addled minds, coming to their home to forcibly take their stoves away? To have them turn an apolitical scientific /medical discovery into a wedge issue overnight? Similarly with Bud Lite... Soooo easy to manipulate these people's opinions/brand preferences/etc.

There has to be a way to harness that power for good... Like, can we convince them that entering voting machines turn you trans or some shit?

Someone much smarter and more media savvy than I should be doing something like this.

Edit: apologies for the USA- centric references, still getting used to checking what instance I'm on before commenting. Regardless, I think the overall point stands.

Also, seems like corporations have figured it out to a point since this article itself is about gas company lobbying.

Where are the leftists with these tactics? Are we all collectively just too ethical for that kind of dirty shit?

There's a big difference between DNA testing and things like "body language science," and polygraph testing.

Like a massive gulf.

Like a Dragon (Yakuza 7) is the only Yakuza game, to date, that's a JRPG. At least in the way most people think of JRPG (turn based combat).

They're all great games, just wanted to point out that only the one, so far, is a turn-based JRPG.

I think it would probably make for a great first JRPG experience. Persona 5 is pretty accessible, but it's very anime and tropey. That said, I'm not a fan of anime and absolutely loved the game. Either would be a great starting point.

Imagine what humankind could have accomplished if we didn't have to divert the majority of our energy and resources to constantly beating back fascism and bigotry.

So much human potential spent holding back the same exact fucking thing every single time. We fought a world war over this shit almost a century ago! Why the fuck do we still need to constantly fight this shit. It's exhausting.

Edit: spelling/grammar

Being marginally better than feudalism isn't a very high bar.

I think maybe you misread (looking back my comment wasn't worded great). I don't believe anything in the Bible is true.

What I'm saying is that they are acting consistently with their faith. Jesus said a lot of some cool stuff, but it doesn't erase all of the horrific shit that their god did before, and how their god tells them to act. And don't forget their god is literally also Jesus. The guy who killed every first born Jew in Egypt (unless you performed a blood magick ritual), and ruined the life of his most faithful servant, killing his family in the process, just to make a point to "the devil". The guy who almost made his #1 prophet murder his own son just for the lulz.

That's Jesus too. And any Christian who disagrees is a heretic.

And no, Jesus didn't "replace" the old law or whatever bullshit people like to tell themselves. The bible is very clear that those rules are still in place.

Jesus himself said he was there to fulfill the law. Meaning the Old Testament. And that is problematic. He was literally ok with owning humans as property, and that it's ok to beat them as long as you don't kill them. Because they're a thing that you own. That's the law Jesus came to fulfill, and not once did he renounce a single word of it.

"Oh but that was just the way things were then..." Yeah, so the son of God (who is also literally God) can't say, oh I don't know, "slavery is an abomination. You cannot own humans"? Didn't want to cause trouble? Jesus, the guy super well known for staying in line and not rocking the boat 🙄.

A book that would go on to be used as justification for chattal slavery in North America, and cause more pain and suffering than any of us could possibly imagine.

People like to act like their bible doesn't say this shit, and that folks like Westboro Baptist don't follow the same book (when they actually follow it more closely). The reality is, Christianity is ugly stuff, and it's wholly incompatible with a modern (peaceful) society.

It may not be the knowing intention of all of the "normal" people, but it is (one of) the intentions of the politicians, pundits, talking heads, etc. that those people listen to and parrot.

It’s kind of hard to believe that all people trying to censor LGBTQ+ [...]

See, that's the thing, these are humans just existing.

We have a word for "censoring" groups of humans for simply existing. That's called genocide.

So what you're doing (not necessarily you, people in general), excusing the "garden variety" bigot, is reminiscent of what was seen with the Nazis after ww2. Did every German nationalist, and member of the Nazi party, personally commit acts of genocide? Or were they just part of a bigger machine, and their "garden variety" hatred for Jews was unrelated to what was actually happening to them (and other marginalized groups)?

Turns out, when it comes to genocide, you don't get off scot free just because you didn't personally pull the lever to start up the gas chamber.

It's almost as if there's an entire class of (inordinately wealthy) people who have no reason to exist in the capacity that they do.

CEO's are so important to the functioning of a product that they don't even have to fucking understand the product itself. Why not give them shitloads of money?

I was with you til the "false" part. As someone who grew up in a sect that actually read the book, ain't nothing false about this Christianity or these Christians.

It's inconvenient to admit, but the bible is an awful awful book.

It's so goddamn exhausting. A constant battle of attrition.

I'm just tired.... When do I get to just enjoy my life?

we've hit the point of capitalism where...

Oh, you mean its literal inception? This shit never worked.

Meanwhile... child labor protections? Who needs em? Protections against child marriage (or let's call it what it is, rape)? They'll be fine. God wills it, after all, and it's in the Bible (or so they're told, very few of them actually read it).

Meanwhile, actual abuse is happening constantly in the Catholic (and others) church, and what do they do? Just shuffle 'em around a little bit. They "repented", so that means we can leave him alone with kids in Montana now instead of New Mexico. Problem solved! Thank the lord!

These fuckers have zero interest in actually protecting children, and for a good chunk of them, they're actively working toward the exact opposite.

Possibly even worse since it's very often used as a cover for CSA. Not just minorities in this case that are being harmed, we're talking about literal children. It's fucking horrific.

Anti-LGBTQ+ people have shifted (back, this isn't new) to arguing that any exposure to anybody or anything that isn't completely hetero-normative, to be "child abuse". The internet is one of the few things many children in particularly backwards states (looking at you Florida and Texas) still have that can show them the truth/reality about gender and sexuality. So naturally, conservatives are desperately looking for ways to stop that.

Meanwhile, the blatant, real sexual abuse and grooming of children is mainly happening in the church and in the home. There's a reason these parents don't want their children understanding the very very basics of sexuality, their bodies, and what is right/wrong when it comes to adults touching them. And it ain't because they care about their wellbeing.

A kid can't rat you out if they don't know the word for what you're doing, or that it's even wrong in the first place. How convenient for them.

Flashbacks to that chapter of The Watchmen where Dollar Bill tried to stop a bank robbery at a bank with revolving doors...

X-Men, X-ray, X-chromosome, XVideos, Lil Nas X, Final Fantasy X....

Wait, what were we listing again?