pjhenry1216 @ pjhenry1216 @kbin.social

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Before the link was edited, when it was just a raw url with no markdown code.

It's always with markdown. Lemmy is the only web app that can access it without markdown. I explained it like four different ways now. If you don't understand it by now, you never will.

It worked for me and it's why I provided a full link. Since it was created on Kbin, it was escaped by Lemmy as well. So lemmy will display the app just like Kbin would. But anyone who creates a link on lemmy, it will always look wrong in every other web app or third party app. It's simply not possible for a third party app to display a link properly that was created by a lemmy user. Same goes for code boxes. They can only be displayed properly by Lemmy and no one else. It's not possible for third party apps to display them properly.

Lemmy is the only one that can display links and code boxes created by Lemmy users. Links and code boxes created by every other platform displays properly everywhere.

You're literally hand waving it away because it still works even though it's impossible to parse by any other app. Just because it is only aesthetic doesn't mean it's a bug. The bug affects jerboa more than Kbin. I still helped those users instead of your pretentious ass by saying "oh well, not my problem."

When there's a problem that only exists with lemmy, it's lemmy.

Do you need me to explain it yet another way? Do you need an ELI5?

You're the pretentious one speaking from some authority without having any clue what the fuck you're talking about.

I'm done. You're blocked so I won't be angered by any stupid replies from you.

The link works for me. I was helping other folks who may have an issue with bare links as pointed out by the other commenter.

Either way, Lemmy is the reason non-lemmy readers can't actually properly parse the information. The information is not what's stored in the database. Only Lemmy can display it properly since it wraps it up in a bunch of markup that is then provided to third parties. As a developer, I don't know what reasoning you still think you have to believe it's not Lemmy. Everything you've said so far does nothing to backup that point.

Edit: also, I'm done here. I'm not interested in convincing a non-developer their favorite platform isn't perfect.

I did stay overnight on occasion to meet deadlines at my old job. When mentioning how uncomfortable sleeping in the car was, my manager bought me a cot. It's like... thanks I guess, but kind of missing the larger point...

Lemmy avoids it by having the source content and then translating output to markdown. Any third party reader needs to sanitize that output.

Lemmy basically does not output safe content for third parties. It's absolutely a Lemmy bug from any developer's perspective.

Boss: "if I can work, you can work."
Also Boss: (works from home)

So, it's actually more a Lemmy bug. Lemmy stores the comments just fine but the API displays it with markdown. The double underscore is screwing up other apps abilities to display it and there's really no way to avoid that. A third party app can't tell if it's supposed to be interpreted or not.

So on Lemmy, all the URLs look fine. On Kbin or any other apps, they'll all get cut off after the first underscore.

I think it's naive to frame it as "wanting to give data" but more that they're allowing themselves to be exploited because many simply don't even know what's in the policy, there are many who concede that they can't do without the platform, and then simply folks who don't know better. I highly doubt there's any significant number of people who understand the policy and happily consent even if they could easily give up the platform instead.

So I think they're both problems. A platform needing data beyond what's necessary to provide the service AND that most people will either concede defeat or not know better.

The information the OS collects is not worth more than keeping you in the ecosystem itself. That's the more lucrative reasoning. Can't easily sell other products if they're not in Windows. The information collection is just gravy.

"I see a problem I can easily fix but obviously it's someone else's problem."

Here's the full link.

https://nitter.net/silent/status/1698345924840296801

Edit: to lemmy users, this link looks no different. To third party app users and Kbin users, etc, the previous links all cut out after the first underscore.

It's essentially forked mastodon. There's no federation with it. It's just using the core functionality. Plus Mastodon's development had a goal and vision. TruthSocial is somewhat antithetical to it.

So you agree some perspectives are wrong then at least. So you don't adhere to your own interpretation.

Then your example was poorly chosen. And the meme is poorly formed because it's technically wrong.

The problem is that the efficiency is achieved through shortcuts and biases. It'd those biases people need to be careful with.

You're basically just agreeing with the correction in the meme but assuming the exact opposite result. In your example of a victim of racism and one who isn't, there is one truth. Racism exists. The person who says it doesn't because they don't see it is objectively wrong.

The original meme is saying the victim of racism is right, but also the person who says it doesn't exist is also right.

I don't think you'd agree with that. Moreover, the explanation is very clear that it isn't choosing one over the other. You did so for some reason to try and get people to emotionally react. One person is wrong. Unless it's a work of art and the artist didn't intend to be vague, the painter clearly painted one or the other. Without context, you don't know, so you should find out before claiming anyone is right.

Hence context is key

I mean, without defining what the self is and consciousness, it's difficult to even define what death is from a consciousness point of view. A living meat bag doesn't require brain activity either. There's a whole range of things. So even assuming we have a good meaning of "death" is oversimplifying things.

Sorry, I thought we used context in replies. You went on a rant about how offensive speech in private places should not be removed. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of what you said.

Using this example though, I've repeatedly stated it requires context to know. It's very sus that this is even shared without the context. This is very commonly a misused term by incels to the point it's odd you weren't aware of that. Or you were and you're back to your hypocritical point of private spaces not being able to remove offensive content.

You clearly don't understand the difference between freedom of speech and consequences of actions. If a friend insulted your spouse in your house, do you just say "yeah, you can stay because I believe in freedom of speech." No. That's bullshit. There's nothing wrong with removing toxicity from private spaces and I'm tired of the idiocy that confuses them with public spaces.

I bet you think Musk is doing a good job with Xwitter too.

No, that's why it's not used outside the Internet to talk about women.

Without context this is extremely suspicious considering how easily the usage could become absolutely understandable to remove. And that one would purposely leave out context is suspicious on its own.