pixxelkick @ pixxelkick @lemmy.world

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Also visit an inner city: the lack of medical care in particular is shocking

Mate you understand that literally having a hospital at all already puts one in the top 50% out if the gate, right?

Quick litmus test:

If you take a shower in water you can drink, you are in the top 20% worldwide. If you can fill your water bottle up at a tap, you are in the top 20%.

I volunteer at a homeless shelter on weekends and literally just the incredulous reaction some folks had when they same me casually refill my water bottle from the tap really firmly reminded me where some people are at from other countries.

We wash our hands casually with water we can also drink.

That is incredible wealth on the global scale

Palestinians right now are drinking literal sewage to survive.

I shower and can open my mouth and gargle the water coming out of that shower head.

On the global scale, the very fact you are posting on this Lemmy instance means you are in the global 1%.

It could be better, bit by God it ca be a billion times worse too, so I try and always keep perspective on that when I see doom posting about how it sucks so bad that millenials don't all get to own individual mcmansions like boomers got to.

Case in point, lol

See my write up in detail here, hopefully it helps shed more light on my point:

https://lemmy.world/comment/7448016

I don't think you did, based on how your response makes no sense contextually.

You sound like you are more focused on vaguely trying to insult me instead of actually parsing what I wrote.

Oh well.

And yet, it's reality. Same property size will go from millions to 100ks.

2.5mil_{3mil prop will be 250k}300k.

Which is indeed, 90% less. Math is hard yo.

This is less a case of the difference and more a case of "center if major cities are hyper inflated and priced dumb, ignore them if you are a millionaire", going literally 1-2 steps out and the hyper inflation rapidly fades out back to normal prices.

A better way I could word it is: "properties in the middle of cities tend to be overpriced by about 10x." If that makes more sense.

Usually it's more like, "yeah but it's west facing" or some shit.

If you wanna be reductive and lack reading comprehension, sure.

median priced house

Not trying to buy a small mansion as your starter home is a good place to start lol.

You do know what the median home is, right?

(Hint, the median priced vehicle, to compare to a similar market, is aprox a brand new off the lot sports car)

You are looking at the 50% mark, starter homes are in the bottom 20%, and it's an exponential curve too.

I've yet to see anyone post actual contrary examples.

It's always built on top of bullshit. Either they dip out, or they post clickbait articles that kick things off with the average or median house prices as their foundation.

That or they give an example city and within minutes I can find decent looking affordable homes and suddenly they have a million excuses for why those affordable homes dont count. You can audibly hear the sound of the goal post dragging across the grass.

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There's a huge difference between helping others within your means vs outside your means.

This is actually the first principle of the Hippocratic Oath that doctors take, if you've read it.

Prioritizing your own health comes first, because a dead doctor can't save anyone else anymore.

Sacrificing your own health to try and help others typically is net negative cause now someone else has to look after your sorry ass in the fallout.

Working yourself to the bone helps no one, it's just net negative and doesn't do any favors.

That's explicitly why I said "lighting yourself on fire", which is actively harmful and tends to be, you know, lethal.

But it's so much easier to strawman what I said into something else entirely and attack that instead yeah?

I'll take "didn't read the post and responded asap" for 200.

And those that spent 1 year getting a specialized certificate or two and entering into specialized markers that have low supply are even farther ahead.

Mind you, this isn't an option for many industries... but it is an option for some and extremely lucrative. (Welding, machining, tonnes of "confined space" jobs, anything in waste management...)

Spending 7 years on a degree to get a high supply low demand job though was and is a scam...

I feel really bad for folks who fell for it though, they trusted people who told them it was a good choice and ot sucks watching so many people suffer for it.

Literally all I did at 19 was crunch the numbers. "Average salary for that field is this, at min wage I would lose this much a year not working and going to school. After paying off my debt it'd cost this, I'd make this much more per year if I get the job asap... so it'd take.... thirty years for the investment to pay out? Wat?"

After comparing some costs vs others and contacting people in the fields, it became apparant that my dream field was actually a huge money sink, and my second best wasn't much better... but my third option was actually very low barrier of entry, growing demand, and paid less but cost almost nothing to get into.

So I went with that.

I've yet to see an example city I couldn't find plenty of options, even Toronto of all places.

When push comes to shove this convo always boils down to this:

Me: okay fine what city?

Them : (city)

Me: (proceeds to link 4-5 solid options I found in a couple minutes)

Them: noon those don't count because (arbitrary reasons)

Me: ah so it's not a housing problem... you are just picky and don't want a solution, you just wanna be mad

Every. Single. Time.

For those who do not, it is significantly worse.

Factually false mate.

The west has enormous infrastructure for people, welfare programs, shelters, upskilling programs, anti-poverty measures, etc.

Do you actually think someone without money in a third world country is better off than someone without money in the United States?

That's wild if you do. I can't imagine what a sheltered life a person has to lead to think that a homeless person in Mexico, or North Korea, or Russia, etc etc, is actually living a better life than a homeless person in the US...

Wild.

It literally is working for the majority of people mate, however you feel about it, poverty is the very small minority.

I would love to make poverty even less of an issue in the west, dont get me wrong, but the average person is fed, has a roof over their head, has a job, and is getting by.

Homelessness, poverty, illness, etc is a minority and that literally means the average person is not in that group.

Literally by definition, the average person is not the minority. That's what the average means...

“Fraud” for one.

Fraud doesn't necessarily cover socialed7a as you aren't selling a product or directly profiting off a service you are selling, so it's a gray area.

You can have multiple layers of abstraction between the disinformation and actual income stream with social media influencers, which heavily muddies the water.

But at this time, AFAIK no... it's not illegal in the US to cosplay in medical outfit and say random shit on Instagram.

“misinformation” is not something that you or I get to define

They are defined, and we are talking about disinformation, not misinformation.

Disinformation is the purposeful spreading of factually incorrect info willfully and knowing it's wrong.

Misinformation is the same but not knowing it's wrong, basically "on accident" or because you genuinely think it's the truth.

For disinformation to be legally acted on it would be up to the prosecutor to prove without a shadow of doubt that the defendant knew the info was wrong and benefited from still spreading it.

Which you can guess is very difficult to price, you'd need effectively to convince a jury that the person didn't truly think they were right.

There are already precedents for this, as there is a type of disinformation that is illegal right now, and that is Libel.

The Depp v. Heard case was a well published example of this. The prosecters had to effectively prove that Heard truly knew she was lying and benefited from that lie, and acted to deceive. An extremely high bar to prove.

But they had evidence photos of her clearly doctoring photos, testimony of witnesses that went against her accounts, text messages, etc.

So it's a high bar but not an impossible bar.

The same would be the bar for making "professional disinformation" illegal. You'd need to prove the person knew they were lying, which is very tough but not impossible (you'd be surprised how often these idiots just admit to it outright)

I own a house, in a major city, in Canada, that I purchased fairly recently.

There are houses in my area that are just as affordable right now.

Are you saying all these for sale signs are fake, it's some kind of psyop or some shit?

Dunno what to tell you but half decent homes go for about 300k here, closer to mid 200ks if it's a fixer upper.

Edmonton, Alberta, population of ~1mil.

Pretty much everytime this comes up, any city discussed, in about 5 minutes I've been able to find affordable homes for 250k to 300k or so that are decent looking and not too far out in the burbs.

But I guess the home I literally live in and bought isn't real.

And no, I didn't get any help from my parents, I didn't get lucky, and my partner and I aren't rich, between the two of us our income was about 70k total combined, took us about a year and a half to save up the down payment on our home, while living in the city.

Even in Canada, in the cheapest city to live in, Montreal, 1 and 2 bedrooms go for about 400k.

Shit like this is what I am talking about.

This is so deeply out to lunch it's laughable.

Post your sources for that mate, I live in a major city in Canada and I assure you those numbers are hyper inflated.

It's a fundamental truth. Children feeling compelled to care for their parents is purely their choice.

I never said it was a bad choice, but it is a choice.

But if you do make that choice, it has consequences.

The concept of children "owing" their parents their lives is anachronistic and ignores the fact the parent chose to have them.

Any parent that feels their children owe taking care of the parent in their older age is an asshole, period. A parent that raised their child well should produce a child that wants to help their parent out of love, not a feeling of owed necessary.

The former is family and love, the latter is narcissistic parents that think they "own" their child.

BUT a child shouldn't be killing themselves to take care of their parent. Any parent that actually loves their child would never ask their child to give up their own life to suit the parents comfort.

A good parent will do whatever it takes to support their child, and if that means leaving their old life behind to move (with their child) somewhere more affordable so the child can actually afford to take care of them, that shouldn't even be a tough question for the parent to answer, it should be an instant "yes, if you are sure you want to do that I'll support your decision"

Parents that compel their children to live outside their means just because they won't move with them somewhere in their means because they dont want to leave their old home behind are shitty parents, period

Parents should never be prioritizing their own comfort at the cost of their children's success in life. If you do that, you were never fit to have a child.