pinkdrunkenelephants @ pinkdrunkenelephants @sopuli.xyz

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I don't have to take action on a fact to have the right to state it.

You might not like the fact that Lemmy admins are just as susceptible to corruption as everyone else, but no one is going to stop saying it simply because you don't want to hear it. And you can't bully us into being quiet about it, either.

Will user blocking actually work the way it should now or is it still useless garbage that enables harassment?

Because I don't have to for them to be terrible or to prove what I said is right.

Instance admins are already compromised sometimes. They can be bribed or get greedy.

He's not wrong. 🤷

It might be better to make participation mandatory to prevent a ruling class from demoralizing everyone else they way they did here with voting.

Wipe out the entire human population everywhere in the country, fence off the entire border and re-wild the land. Build a castle on top of the highest point of the new forest. Reconnect with nature. In the daytime, watch the clouds float across the sky like nature's ships on an endless ocean. At night, watch and track the moon and the stars. Occasionally remark on how the world is much nicer now that we are the only humans left on the land. Open it up to tourism and rake in billions from fat, selfish Americans taking selfies at the ruins. Lie to the whole world and tell them the population's corrupt government killed them off and lament on our failure to save them.

🤷 You want us to commit genocide, so genocide you will get. Nation building is genocide.

Can you remember anything about the paper? Authors, journals, anything?

So is anyone going to do anything to temporarily cool the rivers down or will everyone stand around with their thumbs up their asses while the dolphins go extinct?

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You know, that's not a bad idea

Adults can't be allowed to do whatever they want either, so it's not really a good idea to establish a hierarchy based on age. There are few things specific to kids that don't also apply to adults.

Actually the junk food example is a perfect example of this. Adults get diabetes from eating too much of it just as kids do, so everyone needs to cut down on their sugar intake.

And doing that doesn't require authoritarian intervention, just reclaiming of the means of production and restructuring them so food production no longer puts fucking sugar into everything.

This life doesn't have to be hard. Balancing health and freedom don't have to be hard. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

You realize this hypothetical new country can exist in space.

The former is a debate worthy of its own separate thread, I think.

A simple ban on capitalism alone wouldn't work, I agree with you on that. I'm of the opinion that the government and workers' unions ought to own the means of production and, when they do, they need to fully automate said means so money isn't necessary anymore, and when that happens, capitalism will go into the dustbin of history where it honestly belongs.

If you vote with paper, how do you stop unscrupulous people from assuming your identity and voting in your stead? What's to stop vote counters from disposing of your ballot because they claim you filled it out wrong, or didn't fill in the circle all the way, or used the wrong color pen, or any of the other tricks they do?

Anyone can defraud absolutely anything anyone else does, so it's pointless to use fear of fraud or abuse to not do a thing, especially voting where convenience and ease of use is a lot more important anyway.

Voting electronically is an inevitability given technological progress anyway, especially as we move out into space, so arguing about it isn't going to do any good.

As I pointed out to another guy in the thread, we can arbitrarily dispute the meaning of any word, but at the end of the day, those meanings don't change. We all know what an asshole is, and the context in which he is saying. Humans are hardwired to know that. If we weren't, no society would be possible.

Like I get that you want to prevent abuse but preventing people from using terms based on context isn't going to stop it. Evil people will abuse anything to have power over others. We can't let that stop us from using our own language.

👇Exhibit A right down there. Do you see what I mean? People will dispute absolutely anything to get what they want, and sometimes, they'll even treat the act of dispute as self-reinforcing. That's why we don't listen to them and go on about our business as usual. We have new nations to build; we can't let ourselves be hampered by meaningless disputes the other side will never allow to be resolved. So don't worry about it.

If you can secure paper ballots, then blockchain voting by extension is much more secure.

Especially since blockchain encryption is not only extremely secure, but there is huge financial incentive to not break it, and that psychological barrier is ultimately the important one.

You're refusing to think about what I am explaining to you, and you're doing it deliberately because you think the act of disputing a thing disproves a thing, when in fact it does not. The dictionary is gonna be the final authority on what words mean whether you or I like it or not. Words mean what they mean whether we like it or not. Objective reality does not simply go away because you deny it, and any system we build in the future must accept that as a basic tenet to be able to function.

The debate's been over a while ago. I know you're just going to try to keep talking to get the last word though, and that not only is my point, it's also pretty shameful and against the spirit of the thread -- we actually are trying to have friendly and meaningful debates that you're interrupting because you think concern trolling gives your solipsism validity.

Good day.

It doesn't actually matter. Policies are policies and rights are rights regardless of country.

I speak with an American bias and assume everyone is speaking with bias from their home countries. That can't be helped.

I and many others have taken to writing out our ideas under the assumption that this takes place in a hypothetical future, or at least will apply in the future, when space travel is a thing.

It's pseudonymous and is the best anonymous voting option we have. They aren't actually tied to people's personal information and you know this. A blockchain will therefore be perfectly fine.

If no electronic option is good enough for you, remember the tyrants of today and yesterday have already mastered rigging the paper ballot and they likely already do have your voting history tabulated in some archive somewhere. If you think blockchains are a security nightmare, then the ID system to tie voters to paper ballots will give you PTSD.

I can't hear you over the ruckus of the court bailiffs dragging you out of the courtroom.

🧑‍⚖️ Next case. Oh god, did Mrs. Dobbs's dog shit all over Jack Smith's front yard again? I swear to god, don't the fucking cleaning robots do anything worth a damn anymore?