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And this is why I cook my own food. It's absurd to throw away money for some asshole corporation who doesn't give a shit about you. It's cheaper and healthier to just cook for yourself anyway.

Well then let me explain the situation to you since you apparently come from the same preschool as Captain Dipshit up there:

Comic book movies, like most mainstream movies, have become hollow, plotless, boring propaganda outlets and mainstream movies in general are partly responsible for fucking up the country for over 20 years now.

If we want to have a country, that has to change.

If you don't stop defending spoiled brats like the immature dipshit I just got done yelling at up there, it's never going to change.

Because the reason movie companies pump out shitty CG movie after shitty CG movie year after year, which Martin Scorsese was bitching about to begin with, is because of stupid fucking self-proclaimed peasants like @emptyother who pay money for it.

It's a self-reinforcing fucking brainwashing system. And it's bad for democracy.

And instead of getting upset that I'm angry about it, you should be angry about it, or at least you would if you actually gave a fuck not only about our country but our planet.

Is that simple enough or would you like me to draw it out in crayon?

And you're STILL not listening.

You're still just trying to win something and offering nothing of any meaningful substance justifying content like that, and you're doing it because you know you are wrong.

It's irrelevant what country you're from; Trump and his fascism have become a global phenomenon, and the only ones that really are to blame are people like you openly being anti-intellectual, thinking it's okay and defending it. It's not okay to not think for yourself. It's not okay to support media that tells you doing that is okay. It's not okay to support media that tells you intellectuals are self-important snobs you should ignore. It's not okay to support media that is geared by focus groups with the explicit purpose of shutting off your brain and telling you what you want to hear. None of that shit is okay, ever, in a democracy. I presume you live in a democracy, anyway. If you don't, that goes a long way toward explaining a lot of why you think the way you do.

Here in democracies, the people are the ones who are running the show, and in order to run the show, the entire populace has to be educated.

Media that, explicitly and implicitly through applied psychology, discourages people from being educated directly harms all democratic societies and they're usually made with that purpose. We have a word for it, we call it propaganda and it's designed to exploit suckers like you so demagogues like Trump can get themselves money and power. And they use that propaganda to convince you to vote for and support bad policies that destroy countries and destroy lives. Exhibit A: Brexit.

And your ass fell for it hook, line and sinker.

But once again, you're never the problem. You're just some peasant so how could your actions possibly have such far-reaching effects? How could you all giving corporate monoliths billions of your dollars collectively not negatively impact the rest of us who actually are trying to run a functional democracy?

You couldn't possibly be the problem, no, it's just someone else who had the nerve to get all angry and uppity about it.

When we get rid of the fucking fascists, we're taking away your right to vote.

It's lucky we have dumbasses like you who enable rabble-rousers by justifying their anger, hurt and emotional pain when they're told the truth. Damn lucky, otherwise how would Republicans ever hope to get elected?

As if fascism hasn't become a worldwide phenomenon because of the American people buying into garbage propaganda that tells them what they want to hear, knowing that American movies have heavy global influence and not even considering that it would spread worldwide because they can't be assed to watch where they spend their money.

You know there are people from Canada, the EU and the UK that openly support Trump himself and push for similar policies to be passed in their countries, right?

You do know this?

Fuck no. Everything I said is 100% true and I apologize for none of it. Movie studios have focus groups and marketing research firms that help them write their scripts and they gear their movies to appeal to the sensibilities of self-identified peasants like him to bilk money off of them, and it's sick. I'm tired of their crap, I'm tired of them never being held accountable for anything they do and I'm tired of other people defending them while they let the rich destroy the country our ancestors fought and died to have. You shouldn't be okay with them either.

Let me explain this to you like the 4 year old that you are:

Because acting all “out-of-touch academic in the ivory tower” (your words, not mine) thats a so damn typical fascist move, that has been caricatured in multiple movies, that I cant help point it out

That is anti-intellectualism.

They're telling you lies about how scientists and academics think and act to convince you not to listen to them when they tell you they're wrong.

They're telling you you're wrong on everything from the climate crisis to how the political system works to what movies and media are for because they study the world for decades and therefore know more about how they work than you do.

You could have learned everything they did and more if you actually grew up, humbled yourself and listened to them, but instead you chose to be a selfish, indolent, immature dipshit.

You chose to let your feelings get hurt by people who told you you are wrong and instead of re-examining your thought processes and behavior, you chose to blame everybody else, especially the academics who

And the movie industry saw that, and exploited you by forcing writers to put arguments between characters in their scripts that let characters who think like you win the arguments. To let you get back at those meanie academics who only told you the truth and make them feel the emotional pain you feel. To let you win.

And they raked in billions of your dollars, and all of you saw those types of characters win movie after movie, and began to believe what they had to say was true.

So you didn't listen to academics who warned you that Donald Trump was a fascist.

You didn't listen to academics who told you burning fossil fuels was going to destroy the planet.

You didn't listen to academics when they told you society is getting ready to collapse.

And guess what the fuck happened? Donald Trump made off with our fucking nuclear secrets, the climate has reached 1.5C warming and has started to trigger climate feedback loops, and we're about to have a fucking civil war.

So thanks, you selfish, immature, indolent, spoiled little brat.

You destroyed our country because you can't see that the way you view the world and approach problems is the problem, and you likely will never face responsibility for it until you are forced to, if that.

Until you change, my judgement of you will not, and as long as you whine about it instead of thinking about what Martin Scorsese is telling you, it will be justified.

People care more about avoiding humiliation and emotional hurt than the truth, and it's the root cause of all of our problems.

I sincerely hope people aren't using upvotes or downvotes as a metric for this.

One you don't like and in turn, you can have yourself a nice hot cup of "too bad". We're sick of immature idiots like you defending an exploitative industry that has monopolized an entire art form, enabled the rape of countless innocent actors and actresses because of that monopoly, and does nothing but churn out prefabricated, hollow, meaningless, propaganda-filled garbage. We don't want your fucking crap anymore. Shove it.

Or you could just learn to listen

Oh, but no, it's not you that's the problem, it's everyone else actively voicing a serious problem in media that's at fault. 🫤

Excuse us for wanting movies that aren't worthless fucking garbage that are all CG and no substance.

Excuse us for calling you out for being the root of the problem supporting the enshittification of movies because you refuse to stop being a selfish, indolent, immature dipshit who thinks the world revolves around you.

Excuse us for telling you the truth.

Which is what you do when you do something wrong and then demand everyone has to conform to your way of thinking when called out on it. Because you portray yourself as an ignorant common man standing up to the out-of-touch academic in the ivory tower who tells you facts you don't want to hear. Because you think that's an acceptable way to live. Because you refuse to see how doing that hurts everyone else.

You might think of thinking and intellectual investment as egregious violations of your human rights, but that's not how the real world works. You are an adult with responsibilities who is helping to run a democracy, and as such, you do in fact have to think and consume content that helps you think. It's called growing up and you and the rest of the United States badly need to do it before Trump and his little cult exploits your refusal to stop being a child to commit genocide.

This shit happening with movies is having far-reaching effects throughout all of society and you see it as well as we do; you just don't want to take responsibility for it.

You are a child.

Says the guy who doesn't see that fascism is enabled by anti-intellectualist mindsets that make people reject movies and other media that require a modicum of thought and intellectual participation on the audience's part. Anti-intellectualist mindsets like the kind you're peddling.

Grow the fuck up and stop getting defensive when called out on it. You're wrong and Martin Scorsese is right whether you want him to be or not.

What we really need is a nonprofit organization that rents out equipment and set space to directors so they don't have to turn to big movie studios to get their projects made.

And we need federated online independent movie portals so people know where to find them.

The Barbie movie is a perfect example of the balance of pinache and meaning, and mainstream movies ought to learn from that.

Lol people like you think this way and then you wonder why we elect fascists like Donald Trump. 😆

That just sounds like immature drivel from someone angry they're being called out for not thinking about anything.

The existence of low-quality garbage does not justify its existence and the fact is that post-endgame Marvel movies SUCK. And they suck because they do not follow basic rules of plot, building up suspense, meaningful stakes and other important shit the rabble either forgot about or never knew.

And the fact remains that Americans are suffering because they're not being exposed to high-level ideas in movies, one of the kinds of entertainment they consume the most, and being actively discouraged from thinking by and large through arguments of your own intended to justify their ignorance to avoid emotional hurt. It's hurting us as a people. Art isn't there solely to entertain, it's there to teach you things and make you think, and one of the things Americans badly need to learn is that life isn't all about being entertained and having fun. You have to be willing to put on your big boy pants and actually think.

The fact that there is even a dichotomy between enjoyable movies and movies that make audiences think is what should be upsetting people right now, not Martin Scorsese pointing out truths that make you feel bad.

Grow up.

The Guardian article really doesn't do the true extent of the horror the Baton Rouge police has been inflicting on its residents justice. Have a look at this pic from AP News:

Oh, and this is not the first police scandal to come out of Baton Rouge either. Think back seven years ago:

This latest scandal adds to a long list of corruption and misconduct allegations plaguing the Baton Rouge Police Department, which came under significant scrutiny following the 2016 fatal police shooting of Alton Sterling, a 37-year-old Black man. In 2021, a corruption probe into the department’s narcotics division led to criminal charges and internal discipline against officers accused of stealing drugs from evidence and lying on police reports.

Baton Rouge Police Chief Murphy Paul, who was hired to lead the agency in the wake of Sterling’s killing, said he was so concerned over the recent warehouse claims that he drove to the FBI’s New Orleans field division and asked them to review the allegations.

This tells us that

1. The pigs know exactly what the fuck they're doing and don't care
2. They've been doing this for a long time
3. Legal attempts to force them to change clearly aren't working

And those facts tell us they're tyrannical and need to be thrown the fuck out.

Case closed.

We gonna go there? A conservative might say that a gay person is a pedophile. We good with the other side dealing out extrajudicial beatings? (They called it “fag bashing” back in the day.)

Also nobody listen to this idiot either. Since he can't discern an obvious joke and instead chooses to strawman the hell out of it because he clearly doesn't want to address what I and many other people in the thread are actually saying, he's not intelligent enough to be taken seriously.

🤦 And now I'm being forced to engage with an obvious concern troll for whom I have no hope of convincing to accept the validity of our way of thinking. Wonderful.

To anyone else reading, let's start by pointing out the obvious:

You’re the one who has twice now told people they are all talk and no action and yet are offended by people telling you to take up arms and get on out there to fight the good fight.

You need to stop talking about this and start doing it, otherwise it’s just more useless empty talk. Go get your mates and all your guns and evict some police departments and judges.

So you should be out there, gunning down cops and setting a good example for us! Not whinging online about people telling you to get on with it.

Obvious projection and lies are obvious. I actually specifically said only if necessary anyway so this idiot is obviously just strawmanning the pro-revolution stance, and they're doing it because they are either being paid to do it or are a bootlicker.

A quick check through their post history shows that they're from the UK, and that fact makes me think this idiot in particular is likely some ignorant anti-American bootlicker who couldn't even be assed to read the room. We're Americans. The article is about a torture facility that was secretly being run by cops in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. As in not Britain. Like, have a look at this:

First of all, USAians 🤣

Secondly, someone who is going to undermine American efforts to liberate concentration camps in WW2 because of the same dumbass racists running the police departments I'm advocating we overthrow, specifically to stop concentration camps and literal torture facilities from continuing to operate on U.S. soil, is not someone you should be listening to or taking seriously at all.

Our dumbass troll friend even disrespected a dude whose fucking grandma was liberated from a concentration camp by U.S. troops and they still complain.

Even this post here is a big bag of hot air with no real substantive arguments against revolution at all, so it is any wonder I tell you all to not feed trolls like that?

The most they offer is an attempt to undermine my credibility here:

If you have any common sense, you’ll see that this person calling everyone who doesn’t agree with them a ‘paid spook’ and telling you to ignore them all in favour of listening only to their incendiary drivel- should not be taken seriously

Which doesn't work because you all can go through my post history and watch me cuss out racists and evil people of different sorts, then watch people try to call me out for being angry -- like I'm sure our dipshit troll up here will do as soon as they see this because they clearly have an axe to grind -- and then relent when I tell them to their faces plainly that I don't care about what they think, because I have done nothing but speak in earnest the entire time I've used Lemmy.

I've ditched entire Lemmy servers when I called them out for not doing anything about Hexbear tankies brigading, or blatant vote manipulation, or rape apologia on their own servers, stuff no one else apparently had the courage to do, because that's just how I roll. And when our dear dipshit concern troll tries to go through my post history to try to discredit me, that's all you'll see.

Because I am being 100% honest, open, and in earnest about this. We need to throw out these shitty governments that blatantly and flagrantly abuse their own people in the most horrific of ways, murder people on the street because of their race, and allow corporations and charlatans to claim our lands and make off with trillions of dollars of our own hard-earned money. I don't care what happens to me as a result of saying what I am saying. If I cared about what anybody thought or would do in kind, I wouldn't have this account.

But we can't say that about this idiot who's obviously just lying and arguing in bad faith simply because they don't like Americans.

Anybody who would seriously oppose revolution against city governments that are raping and torturing their citizens Is Not Someone You Should Take Seriously At All. In no timeline does engaging with anyone like that seriously accomplish anything positive.

They're nothing but an over-inflated bag of immature vitriol and you all need to start treating them as such.

And stop letting them forum slide.

Beating the shit out of a known rapist or pedophile, I guess, but that's what jail is for. 🤷 Or beating the shit out of those cops.

The people the pig patrollers were subjugating were just random citizens. They even sexually assaulted an innocent grandma because she had her prescriptions in her car. There's no justification for anything they did, and every justification in the world for everyone else to overthrow them.

I don't know how many people read the full article. It's pretty bad.