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Could have been, but it wasn’t. It’s utterly absurd to think it was logistically possible to do so without anyone seeing or leaking anything. That plot wouldn’t make it out of 9th grade creative writing class.

There’s a first for everything. And after reading the report, it’s easy to come to the conclusion that a building under those conditions would be expected to fail.

Top 10% starts at $173,000 so it’s a bit misleading.

Even now this is a distortion of the facts that in no way make the claim about 9/11 true.

Time consuming sure; But doubling down on their own fundamental misunderstandings and preconceived notions isn't what I would classify as real effort.

If you can prove it, it’s no longer a conspiracy theory.

There are pictures of plane debris, one of which is on the wikipedia article of the event.

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-fbi-pentagon-on-911-2017-5#crews-use-heavy-machinery-to-clean-up-the-damage-6 https://www.military.com/history/25-intense-photos-pentagon-9-11.html

It's been pretty well publicized that the lack of collaboration between the three letter agencies allowed them to slip through the cracks. Foreign intelligence knew about it, but domestic wasn't aware. The fact of the matter is, they aren't just sitting around getting 1 of these reports every couple months that they have to investigate. They get Thousands of these constantly. There's a declassified docuseries on Netflix, that despite being "copaganda" to a degree, all describe legitimate threats that could have turned into big things if they were left along. There's no doubt what the individuals intended to do. I don't think the Bush Administration left anyone do anything, they simply didn't let a tragedy go to waste.

No, people actually believed it from day 1.

"_______ doesn't happen without _______" all all bullshit based on nothing. NIST has published their findings. They had 200 Experts, 125 of which came from the private sector investigate how the towers came down, and there is absolutely no evidence what so ever that they were brought down in a controlled manner. I even remember watching a documentary that interviewed the owner or engineer of one of the US's top demolition companies that easily pokes holes in the idea that a major skyscraper with people, furniture, etc could be brought down like that at all. It's total nonsense. NIST has a FAQ page

Depends on who you ask. https://www.nist.gov/world-trade-center-investigation/study-faqs/wtc-7-investigation#Collapse

The push back on questioning the narrative was surreal.

The vast majority of the time, the pushback was low effort "asking questions" based on fundamental misunderstanding of the subject matter or entirely pulled our of their asses.

Same reason people believe in the Earth being Flat, Vaccines causing Autism, or any other insane bullshit that doesn't stand up to reason.

Commercial support for it.

On a personal level, I installed Ubuntu for the first time in over a decade and found the experience worse. Previously I could download everything I needed either through the package manager or deb file easily. Ow I ran into a new flat pack type installer that has failing dependencies that weren’t found through command line either. The new mouse driver in gnome was hot garbage too with the touchpad sensitivity so high I couldn’t scroll more than a page and a half at even the lightest touch. No settings to change it either. Windows is far easier at this point.

I doubt it. Google will squander it away one way or another. It could work on a technical level, I’ve been using flex since before Google bought it for family members, it’s just poorly advertised and explained.

Someone needs to turn the hyperbole dial down on Lemmy. My feed is frequently nothing but Chicken Little's whining about trivial shit. When something truly egregious comes up, I'm not going to be able to see if in a sea of outrage.

It really depends on what you mean. TARP, from the end of the Bush Administration and early Obama Administrations turned a profit for the Government. https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/20/business/us-signals-end-of-bailouts-of-automakers-and-wall-street.html

There could be individual banks over-leveraged in commercial real estate, but those aren’t important. At this scale it’s large enough to cause a a major recession or crash. We’ve seen smaller banks fail recently.

Yea I was being as neutral as possible in my answer. I agree it absolutely would be worse than 2008. I don't think nationalizing the assets are going to work in this environment. The best we can hope for is regulation, but in the specific situation no one really did anything wrong. A Global pandemic flipped norms on their head.